Hello Dave,

We use a separate volumes for each @sys.
More than this and to avoid having large volumes,
we sub-divide further volumes/mountpoints below @sys.

Large volumes lead to complications with volume operations
like backup, move and restore. We try to keep volumes < 200 MB
but this is not always possible.

It can be handy to analyse how frequently software is used
by looking at the statistics in "vos ex $volume -verbose".

For example:

    mpb@tricorder $ pwd
    /afs/@cell/@sys/opt/netscape405
    mpb@tricorder $ fs lq
    Volume Name                   Quota      Used %Used   Partition
    rs43.netscape405              32768     27341   83%         80%  
    mpb@tricorder $ vos ex rs43.netscape405 -verbose
    Fetching VLDB entry for 536892071 .. done
    Getting volume listing from the server afs0.hursley.ibm.com .. done
    rs43.netscape405                  536892071 RW      27341 K  On-line
        afs0.hursley.ibm.com /vicepa 
        RWrite  536892071 ROnly          0 Backup  536892073 
        MaxQuota      32768 K 
        Creation    Mon Jun  8 13:47:04 1998
        Last Update Mon Jun  8 14:12:17 1998
**      3 accesses in the past day (i.e., vnode references)

        RWrite: 536892071     Backup: 536892073 
        number of sites -> 1
           server afs0.hursley.ibm.com partition /vicepa RW Site 

I hope this helps!
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Dave Lorand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Paul,
>
>Thanks for your thoughts; they'll be helpful in designing our new cell
>structure.  A few questions:
>
>At 6:47 AM -0500 9/28/99, Paul Blackburn wrote:
>>Hello Dave,
>>
>>Some thoughts about cell layout. At /afs/@cell, we have:
>>
>>    @sys-dirs architecture specific binaries and libraries
>>              rs_aix41 rs_aix42 rs_aix43 etc
>
>Do you install each package in a separate volume per @sys, or do you have a
>common volume containing all architechtures?  This seems to be the major
>issue about which folks here have waflled in the past.  Some packages, like
>Matlab, seem to go better if there is a separate volume for each
>architechture because the authors wrote with single-platform installations
>in mind.  Others, like Perl and Sendmail, expect to mingle architechtures
>within their trees, and they know how to separate architechture-specific
>files from architechture-independant ones.  I'd appreciate anyone's
>comments on this issue.
>
>The comments about home directories were also helpful.  We don't have any
>home directories in AFS yet, but we'd like to move in that direction once
>we change /bin/login.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dave
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