Jon, tell me about it.
I was as naive about AFS as anyone comming from a PC and VAX environment where
you are typically buffered from REAL networks and their attendant "unable to
connect to host" rhetoric when I first learned about this thing called AFS
about a year ago. Well. I did a couple of "ls -R /" to see what was happening
in this places in Japan, UK, Spain, etc.

That was enough - I stopped doing it!!!

I asked about NFS and DFS stuff. I went to school. I liked it! I appreciated
the X.500 concept. I am a happy camper. :-). I give users credit for not
being stupid. If users ask and get correct answers, I do not see why they
continue to stat the Universe. Anyway, many orgs have a truncated DB --
and it makes sense, if your network binds your universe!
        - art :-)
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 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 93 08:22:21 -0500
 From: "Jon S. Stumpf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ls /afs: It takes a long time

 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garance A. Drosehn)
 > Subject: Re: ls /afs: It takes a long time
 > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 03:10:08 GMT
 > Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 > It does the job for you (an individual, and one who is a far cry from being
 > a unix-newbie).

 Either put a smiley in there or chill out.

 > It is of no use in solving the problem originally mentioned, where new users
 > (ones who also have that alias) do an "ls /afs" just to see what is there.

 A new user will list anything they find so "/afs" is as good/bad as
 "/afs/foreign" or any other directory in which external cell mount points
 are kept.

 - jss

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