srivas sez:

> What sort of a chunk size have you set your cache-managers (ie, afs
> clients) to use?
> 
> We've added a little feature in afs3.4 that may help alleviate this
> slow response time. The client can be made to return immediately on
> "close" of a file using "fs storebehind", so the copying back is done
> asynchronously.

i was under the impression that afs has always let the storedata complete 
asynchronously if the file is one chunk.  (maybe this is why you wanted to 
know his chunk size ...)  afs3.4 puts this under user control, i gather.

lyle sez:

> I have to confess that I don't know much about POP.  Can the POP
> server can be convinced to write directly into AFS on your behalf? 
> That sounds like it would probably complicate POP greatly.

ugh.  i guess you could proxy authenticate the pop server, but this would be a 
lot of work, for marginal gain.  (who wants to rewrite the world just to 
support some laptops?)
 
> I don't want to beat a dead horse, but this particular problem is
> avoided by AMDS, which simply renames the new mail into its final
> resting place, so the mail only traverses the slow network link if you
> actually read it (of course, "you" means "you or an agent of yours").

yeah, but amds is a horror show to install, administer, and use. 

paul blackburn sez:

> Also avoided with an AFS authenticated mail delivery daemon (such as sendmail)
> appending to $HOME/.mail

i don't like mechanisms like khat or the reauth daemon.

perry sez:
 
> He could, on the other hand, run inc on some machine connected by a
> fast lan to the AFS server for his directory. That would seem like the
> simple and efficient solution.

but this is a pain.  i like to collect new mail by popping the inc button in 
my gui, not by finding a window on an upstream machine etc.

btw, i'm in the same boat as mike -- for going on five years now -- and i just 
say the hell with it and inc/pop into the local cache, storing back to the 
servers.  oh well.  maybe i've just become inured, or maybe my link is pretty 
fast (19.2 zyxel + citi rx hdr compression), but i'm pretty happy with it.  

still, emailed postscript (and gifs ... hehe) do tend to mess me up -- but bad!

        peter


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