I'm not so sure I'd call it a crock. They were impressively careful in
explaining the difficulties of checking addresses. Outstanding service, too.
The following is some of the info they provided:
===========================
OUTPUT FILES
Bad Syntax - addresses are not in valid format. Often a minor correction to
the address is needed in order for it to be valid. The most common reason
is that there is no valid extension (i.e. .com, .net, etc). The second most
common reason is that there is a space somewhere in the email address. Bad
syntax addresses are also included on the "bad" list.
Bad - addresses that are not deliverable. Generally, these consist of user
unknown errors. Also includes the addresses listed in the bad syntax file
to ensure that these are removed from the master list.
Unknown - addresses which were not resolvable at the time of the test.
Exist - confirmed deliverable addresses.
Please note: for the past few days, compuserve.com addresses have not been
resolving during our checks. Consequently, they will appear on
the unknown list.
===========================
But back to crock et al, are you also saying their methods will also give
false indications of bad addresses?
best, paul
At 02:40 PM 5/31/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Unfortunately, this is a crock. All they are doing is verifying a RCPT to
>the email address. AOL will accept anything and send
>back a failure notification of the email does not exist. You can try it
>yourseld with telnet or the iMS SMTP test console. Connect
>to the AOL server and send mail to somthing like
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and you will see that it will accept it. AOL
>is not
>the only ISP that works this way.
>
>There are also other email servers that accept the mail and, if the
>address is invalid, it will forward the mail to the postmaster.
>So, in most cases, the mail goes through and you don't get any type of
>failure back.
>
>Regards,
>
>Howie
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (paul smith)>
>To: "inFusion Support List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [iMS] checking valid email
>
>
> > I had a service "clean" a list the other day. Here is some of the log they
> > sent me.
> >
> > best, paul
> >
> >
> ================================================================================
> >
> > ORIGINAL EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > CLEAR EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > RESULT: Exist
> > COMMENT: mailin-01.mx.aol.com "250 OK"
> > CHECKING LOG:
> >
> > Request DNS for SMTP servers for this e-mail...
> > Try DNS-server 64.39.2.170
> > Sending DNS request...
> > Wait for DNS reply...
> > Found 4 relay(s) (mailin-01.mx.aol.com [15], mailin-02.mx.aol.com [15],
> > mailin-03.mx.aol.com [15], mailin-04.mx.aol.com [15])
> > Check via mailin-01.mx.aol.com SMTP-server
> > Connecting to SMTP server...
> > Connected with SMTP-server
> > 220-rly-xg02.mx.aol.com ESMTP mail_relay_in-xg2.10; Wed, 22 May 2002
> > 10:21:41 -0400
> > 220-America Online (AOL) and its affiliated companies do not
> > 220- authorize the use of its proprietary computers and computer
> > 220- networks to accept, transmit, or distribute unsolicited bulk
> > 220 e-mail sent from the internet.
> > HELO go.listdeliver.com
> > 250 rly-xg02.mx.aol.com OK
> > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 OK
> > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 OK
> > RSET
> > 250 OK
> > QUIT
> > mailin-01.mx.aol.com "250 OK"
> >
> >
> ================================================================================
> >
> > ORIGINAL EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > CLEAR EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > RESULT: Exist
> > COMMENT: mx05.mindspring.com "250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Recipient ok"
> > CHECKING LOG:
> >
> > Request DNS for SMTP servers for this e-mail...
> > Try DNS-server 64.39.2.170
> > Sending DNS request...
> > Wait for DNS reply...
> > Found 12 relay(s) (mx05.mindspring.com [5], mx06.mindspring.com [5],
> > mx07.mindspring.com [5], mx08.mindspring.com [5], mx09.mindspring.com [5],
> > mx10.mindspring.com [5], mx11.mindspring.com [5], mx00.mindspring.com [5],
> > mx01.mindspring.com [5], mx02.mindspring.com [5], mx03.mindspring.com [5],
> > mx04.mindspring.com [5])
> > Check via mx05.mindspring.com SMTP-server
> > Connecting to SMTP server...
> > Connected with SMTP-server
> > 220 niles.mail.mindspring.net EL_3_5_6 /EL_3_5_6 ESMTP Earthlink Mail
> > Service Wed, 22 May 2002 10:22:03 -0400 (EDT)
> > HELO go.listdeliver.com
> > 250 niles.mail.mindspring.net Hello go.listdeliver.com [64.39.30.114],
> > please to meet you
> > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender ok
> > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Recipient ok
> > RSET
> > 250 reset state
> > QUIT
> > mx05.mindspring.com "250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Recipient ok"
> >
> >
> ================================================================================
> >
> > ORIGINAL EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > CLEAR EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > RESULT: Exist
> > COMMENT: etrn.napanet.net "250 2.1.5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Recipient ok"
> > CHECKING LOG:
> >
> > Request DNS for SMTP servers for this e-mail...
> > Try DNS-server 64.39.2.170
> > Sending DNS request...
> > Wait for DNS reply...
> > Found 4 relay(s) (etrn.napanet.net [50],
> > napanet.net.napanet.mail1.psmtp.com [100], postini-mail.napanet.net [300],
> > napanet.net.napanet.mail2.psmtp.com [65480])
> > Check via etrn.napanet.net SMTP-server
> > Connecting to SMTP server...
> > Connected with SMTP-server
> > 220 etrn.napanet.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.2; Wed, 22 May 2002
> > 07:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
> > HELO go.listdeliver.com
> > 250 etrn.napanet.net Hello go.listdeliver.com [64.39.30.114], pleased to
> > meet you
> > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 2.1.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender ok
> > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 2.1.5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Recipient ok
> > RSET
> > 250 2.0.0 Reset state
> > QUIT
> > etrn.napanet.net "250 2.1.5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Recipient ok"
> >
> >
> ================================================================================
> >
> > ORIGINAL EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > CLEAR EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > RESULT: Unknown
> > COMMENT: mail.smn.com "554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50),
> > ruleset 3"
> > CHECKING LOG:
> >
> > Request DNS for SMTP servers for this e-mail...
> > Try DNS-server 64.39.2.170
> > Sending DNS request...
> > Wait for DNS reply...
> > Found 1 relay(s) (mail.smn.com [10])
> > Check via mail.smn.com SMTP-server
> > Connecting to SMTP server...
> > Connected with SMTP-server
> > 220 jean-grey.pixi.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Wed, 22 May 2002
> > 03:48:30 -1000
> > HELO go.listdeliver.com
> > 250 jean-grey.pixi.com Hello go.listdeliver.com [64.39.30.114], pleased to
> > meet you
> > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender ok
> > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50), ruleset 3
> > RSET
> > 250 Reset state
> > QUIT
> > mail.smn.com "554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50), ruleset 3"
> >
>
>
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