Wow!  I admire your speed and talent!  Thoughts:

I would want more color, or at least a different color than brown. The brown makes it seem old or aged, to me....kind of uninviting. The image itself I love! Just the color.

Or maybe it's a fudgesicle, so it would stay brown, but the rest having something a little brighter?

I'd like to see the popsicle facing the other direction. The way the text (Starting With) is over on the upper right area, it seems like it should be the other way around. I don't know if I'd like it better, but I'd like to see how it looks.

Very well done!

All best,
brynn


-----Original Message----- From: C R
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 4:03 PM
To: Martin Owens
Cc: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-docs] News item about the new manual work?

Okay, finished an initial version of the cover for the beginners guide.
Yes, it's all in Inkscape. :)

Here's a png:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4n88xpnc6declz/inkscape_cover_beginner_manual.png?dl=0

Thoughts?

On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Martin Owens <docto...@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone help Maren?

I feel like a news article and a deviantArt post would be useful for
drumming up volunteers.

But also, for a project director when just getting started, it's useful
to hand out jobs, so people know that they are needed and that they
don't have to think too much about which of the jobs they should do
while figuring out the software/editing platform.

Thoughts?

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Sun, 2017-06-04 at 14:46 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote:
CR, I have been translating (and fixing contents as I go) 1-2
chapters
each day for the last 2.5 weeks and am more than halfway through (35
chapters done, 24 left to do). There wasn't anyone else to be seen
around, after the first week, when one person translated a chapter
(unfortunately they picked the only one that needs to be rewritten
from
scratch, because Inkscape changed), and two people proofread a couple
of
chapters (thank you!!!). Well, and a couple of days ago, someone
seems
to have accidentally wiped all the notes on the book, that were
supposed
to help get people started (or maybe it was a platform bug).

I'd be glad to see some proofreading and styling/screenshooting
people
get on board, so we can continue seamlessly after I'm through with
translating.

I'm a bit disappointed about everyone being so engaged and vocal
about
helping/liking the action, and now me working on it alone for > 2
weeks
already.
But that's normal, I guess - it was the reason why I haven't started
this earlier, and I felt ready to take it on now, no matter what.

Anyway, I'm going to continue to plow through, then translations will
be
ready before the hackfest. In parallel, I'm going to be plowing
through
my new garden, and to help fix up someone else's house, so I expect
to
not have time for much else.

I'd be glad if someone could try and reengage people to help with the
manual (preferably people who are able to work independently and know
Inkscape inside out, or who concentrate on something they really do
well, like fixing up language or styling).

There are more than enough open tasks:
from CSS to cover design, to screenshooting, to consistency checking
and
layouting, to improving on my more or less weird English, to adding
missing content (or perhaps, translating, of course).

And yet, when we do this, I think it's important to take care to
honor
the underlying 'Keep it simple and as short as possible' concept of
the
book, which would make it possible for young teenagers to use it to
get
started, without much theoretical ballast.
Elisa seems to have invested a *lot* of thought into how she built up
the chapters and when to start teaching which concept. I suspect her
concept stems from experience in teaching live Inkscape courses.

 Maren

Am 04.06.2017 um 13:32 schrieb C R:
>
> I'd say let's wait and do a progress report, so we can say that
> we're
> making progress on it, rather than just that we've decided to do
> it. I
> plan on helping this area of the project much more after I handle
> the
> hackfest swag. It would be better to have a more or less complete
> manual before we announce it to the public, unless it's a call for
> help with it.
>
> If it's a call for help with that area of the project, then go
> ahead, though. :)
>
> Thanks for the amazing amount of work you're doing for the project,
> brynn. It's definitely helping drive my own motivation for Inkscape
> project work. :)
>
> -C
>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, brynn <br...@frii.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Friends,
> >        As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming
> > hackfest, I
> > suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short
> > item about the
> > recent new work on the new manual?
> >
> >        I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article.  I'm
> > thinking
> > Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first
> > time around?
> > Although I don't mean to volunteer her.  As I said, I could do it
> > myself, if
> > we decide to do it.
> >
> >        I think it would help in community-building, to keep the
> > wider
> > community up to date about these things.  What do other manual
> > workers and
> > Docs list subscribers think?
> >
> > All best,
> > brynn
> >
> >
> >
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