Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and versions.
We do already have the possibility for the developer to use tags to indicate
this. But I haven't seen them being used consistently. Some developers seem to
use some of them, but not all, and not all devs are using them.
(In some cases, I'm just happy that the developer has uploaded to the gallery at
all. But on the other hand, it would be SO nice to have this info available for
users.)
I can understand how it would take some extra time and energy (for the website
developers) to make checkboxes or something. But I would be happy if just a
sentence or 2 could be displayed. Something like "Please indicate all Inkscape
versions which this extension is known to work with, as well as all operating
systems."
I'm not sure what you mean with "extract and copy" or "need to install". Unless
it's something about the Django code?
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Westmann
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:56 AM
To: Brynn
Cc: Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Compatible with: Win, Mac, Linux ■
Inkscape 0.92.3/+ ■
Extract and copy files ? (No)
Need to install? (Yes)
Something similar to this?
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 11:33 PM brynn, <br...@frii.com> wrote:
Actually I just had another thought about this.
Is it unreasonable to expect that the extension developer knows which versions
or operating systems their extension works with? Why not make sure the
developer shares that when the extension is released to the community?
Would it be possible to have extra fields be displayed, in the upload form, when
the Extensions category is chosen? Is there any way to configure the upload
form, so that info has to be provided, before it will upload?
Or if not mandatory fields, would it be possible to just display a prominent
notice, when the Extensions category is selected, asking the developer to
please, please, please include that info?
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Westmann
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:09 PM
To: Brynn
Cc: Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Got it!
No no. You said it right. I was just wondering if we could promote inkscape
extensions more widely and more clearly. I use inkscape since 2007 but just
recently understood how to use and enable some of the extensions... hehe.
Hopefully not all inkscape users are as distracted as I am/was. :)
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 8:52 PM brynn, <br...@frii.com> wrote:
Hi Victor,
Well, the gallery is the first item in the Community tab, in the main
menu. There's also a promonent link on the front page of the website.
And more specifically about extensions, at the bottom of the guide for
writing extensions (https://inkscape.org/en/develop/extensions/) it mentions
uploading it to the gallery (or a link to it). It even gives steps how to do
it.
I can't think of any way to make sure that /all/ extensions are in the
gallery. But I think eventually, most of them will be there.
Or did I miss your point?
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Westmann
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:46 PM
To: brynn
Cc: Inkscape-Docs ; Maximilian Gaukler
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Brynn,
Thank you for your always detailed and very well explained email.
Allow me one silly question, please: is it possible for us to announce the
gallery in the main inkscape website so the inkscape extension developers can
publish them in our gallery?
Let me know if I missed anything.
--Victor Westmann
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 9:41 PM, brynn <br...@frii.com> wrote:
Short answer:
It will be different in 2 ways. 1 - It will include all known extensions, and
2 - it will only be links to download pages, not any actual extensions. Here's
the page, but it only has tutorials and a couple of books on it now:
https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php.
As far as I understand, you don't have to host your extensions in the gallery.
If you prefer to use a repo like github, you can just put the link to it in your
gallery posting. (But for newbies, it would be nice to include specific info
about exactly what to download. I'm not exactly a newbie, but I still get
confused when I have to go to github to download something.)
I think the gallery category *could be* the main distribution channel. But I'm
not sure how that could be controlled. Once it becomes known more widely, I
would guess that most extensions will be found there. But I think extensions
will always be scattered around, to some extent.
Long answer:
Currently external Inkscape extensions are scattered far and wide across the
internet. By my count, that is approximately (roughly) 300 extensions! A few
of us are working on contacting as many extension authors as we can, and
informing them about the gallery, which might not have even existed, when they
created their extensions.
But when I say "a few", really only one person is doing that work, with me and
another person (Maren) providing support when we can. The work is going very
slow, as far as I can tell. I think the reason it's going so slow, is that
person (Mark Shafer) (I probably mispelled the last name) is also attempting to
bring older extensions up to date, at the same time. If we were to focus only
on contacting the authors, it would probably go faster. This is our working
page: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Inkscape_Extensions.
Between that page, the original Extensions Repository (which was only sparsely
used by extension authors, afaict)
(http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Extension_repository), and the
gallery's extensions category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=extension/),
that's all the extensions we know of.
I just want to have sort of a master list of extensions, because as I provide
support for Inkscape (primarily in forums) I'm sick and tired of searching
hither and yon to help users find extensions. Plus, having such a list will
allow users to search on their own.
If someday, we finally have all the external extensions in the gallery, I'll
happily delete my list of links (to download pages). I'm not sure if that would
ever happen, but I'd be happy if it did.
My desire to put out a call for testers will benefit both the comprehensive list
I'm making, as well as the gallery category. I'm also getting tired of
explaining to people who are searching for extensions, that 'here are all our
extensions, but we have no idea which ones work, which version they work with,
or on which systems'. So even when we have them all in one place, we'll still
be reciting the same lines, unless we can gather that info about them.
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maximilian Gaukler
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 1:39 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Hi brynn,
I may have missed something - in what way is your extension page
different from the extension gallery? Is it only for extensions not
listed in the gallery?
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=extension/
Do you have a link to your page?
Anyway, I'd like to get an overview of existing extensions out there in
the web, especially the ones that do similar work to the ones I am
contributing to.
Regarding the gallery:
Is there a way to add an extension to the gallery without uploading a
zip file? I would like to link only to github, as I don't like having to
reupload it for every new version: That's duplicate work and tends to be
forgotten, especially if the inkscape website is not the main
distribution channel.
Best Regards,
Max
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