Hello Andrew and others... Andrew Alder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>At 01:24 AM 22/08/03 -0400, Jonathan Arthur wrote: >>In my view, a heterosexual person remains heterosexual even if they are >>completely celibate. Similarly, a homosexual person remains homosexual >>even if they are completely celibate. >>I see it this way: >> >>A heterosexual male may be attracted to many people, all of whom happen to >>be women. We may encourage this person to select one woman, enter into a >>lifelong relationship with this woman, and confine the expression of their >>sexuality to this relationship. >> >>Similarly, a bisexual male may be attracted to many people, some of whom >>are men, some of whom are women. We may encourage this person to select >>one person (man or women), enter into a lifelong relationship with this >>person, and confine the expression of their sexuality to this relationship. [back to Andrew] >I think you'll find that if you use these definitions, then as a >consequence EMU will have no objection to the ordination of homosexuals (as >*you* define them). You have lost me here. This certainly does not seem to be happening :-) Can you explain a little further? In relation to this, I have heard others say that because one does not cease to be homosexual or heterosexual when celibate, there should be no issue with the requirement that homosexual people remain celibate in order to be ordained. However, the issue is really about ensuring the same standards apply to both homosexual and heterosexual ministers. For example, if members of EMU support the ordination of *celibate*, homosexual people, I think they would find a lot more traction with those of a different view point if they supported the line that *all* people (homosexual and heterosexual specifically) need to be celibate in order to be ordained. (Of course, that would set up a whole other debate on the pros/cons of requiring ministers to be ordained, but let's not go there.... ) __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 ------------------------------------------------------ - You are subscribed to the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the message body 'unsubscribe insights-l' (ell, not one (1)) See: http://nsw.uca.org.au/lists.htm ------------------------------------------------------
