Hi Clare and others I tend to agree with Clare that there is a big difference between request and the offer.
However, the whole exchange makes me a bit uncomfortable. I think this might be because there seems to be some assumption of special ownership in the pulpits or schools concerned. The concept that some collective of pulpits is within the gift of Dr Jensen to commit is particularly worrying. (Perhaps that's why he committed to a particular pulpit?). I guess the other scientists referred to by Dr Hubble might have views on being committed to this exercise too? I'd like to add that I'm don't want to be heard as saying that speaking about scientific method or theory from the pulpit would be inherently problematic. It is just the concept of being directed to talk about it, in the context of brief argument in the paper, is a bit annoying. Marg Cotton -----Original Message----- From: Clare Pascoe Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 11:25 AM To: insights Subject: Re: Science and Theological Does anyone besides me see a HUGE difference between allowing Hubble to speak to 100-200 students at Moore (I'm guessing on the figures) who are already fairly heavily indoctrinated into Anglican theology, and Hubble's actual request to present his theories "from the pulpits"? Clare Dean Tregenza wrote: > > A pulpit challenge > > I think we would all accept that science and technology are just as much > a part of everyday life as Archbishop Jensen claims religion to be > ("Let's not undervalue moral education", Herald, February 2). > > So, Dr Jensen, if you want God in our schools then you should allow me > and other scientists to present our theories, and the method of > validation and refutation on which they are based, from your pulpits. > The challenge is there, Dr Jensen. I'll give you equal time on my turf, > if you'll give me equal time on yours. What say you, Sir? > > Dr Tom Hubble, University of Sydney, Camperdown, February 3. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Stuart > Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 9:36 AM > To: 'Niall McKay'; 'Insights List'; 'ucatsa' > Subject: RE: Science and Theological > > Niall, do you have the initial letter to the editor that inspired > Jensen's response? > > > > Tom > > > > > > In the SMH letters to the editor - will be interested to see whether > this becomes a public lecture! > > http://www.smh.com.au/letters/index.html > > > True believers in a game of call my bluff, so to speak > > Thank you, Dr Tom Hubble, for your kind invitation, through the > Herald's Letters page (February 4), to speak to your students. I > accept. On my part I hereby invite you to speak to students at Moore > Theological College. > > You may also be interested in our master's course on science and > Christianity, run with the help of a noted theoretical physicist, > Professor Ross McKenzie, of the University of Queensland. I will be > in touch to confirm the details. > > Dr Peter Jensen, Archbishop of Sydney, Sydney, February 4. > > > -- *************************************************** Clare Pascoe Henderson http://www.clergyabuseaustralia.org Clergy Sexual Abuse in Australia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] *************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------ - You are subscribed to the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the message body 'unsubscribe insights-l' (ell, not one (1)) See: http://nsw.uca.org.au/insights-l-information.htm ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ - You are subscribed to the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the message body 'unsubscribe insights-l' (ell, not one (1)) See: http://nsw.uca.org.au/insights-l-information.htm ------------------------------------------------------
