To My Dear Friends on the Insights List

I have been on this list for 2 years and mostly biting my tongue, spoke out once and got hammered down. I know we are well trained here not to play out of bounds, but for goodness sakes this is a chat site frequented by ministers - most of us are adults and can speak the truth, and someone should be brave enough to speak out. I really think that someone has to come out and say it.

We seem to have a whole generation of Uniting Church Ministers who are agnostics. Ministers who will give complex rationalisation, or hint that they could, for why they don't really believe Jesus was a real historical figure, or Jesus really died, or Jesus underwent a physical resurrection, or that in fact salvation is available to people thorugh the death and resurrection of Jesus.

The Uniting Theological College is largely (entirely?) to blame, one can not hold it against these ministers, they were lambs to the slaughter, presumably went in with Christian beliefes but came out with educated agnosticism. Though a natural reaction is to protest that observation, it is patently obvious after a weeks of reading emails on this site, not to mention being involved in the Uniting Church. I know a few ministers who deliberately chose not to train at UTC, for this very reason. I also chose not to train at UTC, for the same reason, but I only trained as a missionary and was not ordained.

We have a wonderful denomnation in terms of social responsibility, but really for a church to survive, it needs more than just agnostic social workers as its ministers.

Sorry, everyone knows this but someone had to play out of bounds and say it.

Shalom

Charles

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