>I would suggest that the questions you ask are all related to the death and
>dying of "supernatural theism" (Marcos Borg's terminology) 

I also have problems with the supernatural/natural distinction. First, because
we do not yet know the extent of the "natural". I have an interesting book by
John Downer entitled, "Supernatural". However, it is not about the occult, but
the amazing ability of animals and plants: such things as navigation of birds by
the stars or magnetic fields, subsonic communication, chemical communication (by
widely separated plants), etc. How do we know we can definitely designate
something as supernatural when we don't know the extent of the natural.

Second, as we learned in High School, everything, including the biological,
ultimately breaks down to physics. (Or was my physics teacher just having us
on?) Thus the natural is that which obeys the laws of physics. However, there
are points even within our universe where the laws of physics break down, namely
black holes. There are probably large black holes at the centre of many galaxies
(including our own) and smaller black holes scattered throughout the universe.
These points in space are actually outside of space, so where is the boundary
with the natural? If God is outside time-space also we are going to have
difficulty characterising the interaction.

To put the issue another way, is the natural/supernatural distinction an
obsolete way of looking at existence?

- Greg


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