Hi Tom. Perhaps it's more relevant to look to the charism(s) that 
generate(d) the UCA out of the previous denominations (yeah, I know we're 
supposed to be _not_ another denomination, in theory and original intent, 
but characters like McCaughey have lamented the focus we've had since 1977 
on becoming a denomination, not continuing the journey that formed the 
UCA).

I certainly find some renewal of interest and energy when we look again at 
the Basis of Union and the times & issues surrounding it. Andrew Dutney's 
certainly got a fair bit of mileage out of his interest in the issue, and I 
think that suggests others find his research and writings of interest too.

I actually know of a current UCA member who sought out a UCA congregation 
after reading the Basis of Union, when he found his own theological 
questions & issues being addressed by the BoU in ways that his previous 
(more conservative and congregationally-focussed) denomination hadn't even 
allowed.

I wouldn't think that all denominations have become indistinguishable, but 
rather that we've each forgotten why we're distinctive (in ways more than 
just "we're not like them"). And one of the reasons I like the UCA is that 
we have some good reasons why we're distinctive: for example, we ordain 
women in contrast to the majority of other Christian denominations around 
the world, and we do so as a matter of conscience or obedience to the 
Spirit (which actually harks back to stuff of Wesley's charism, 
interestingly).

Regards,

Rohan

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From:   Tom Stuart [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:19 AM
To:     'insights-l'
Subject:        Reason for the end of denominational allegiance

I'm reading a book at the moment that suggests that a large part of the
decline of denominational allegiance is due to the fact that most
denominations have moved so far, or lost altogether, the original charism
(for the sake of a better word) that brought that denomination into being.



That seems to suggest that all denominations have become indistinguishable
in their nominalism.



I wonder how many people who go to the churches where I worship know of
Wesley and Calvin.  While I think many would not even know these characters
names I am certain that no one could articulate the unique contribution
these made giving birth to Methodism and the Presbyterian church.



I'd never thought of it that way before.



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