On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Dave Miner wrote:

> Justin Zygmont wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Alan DuBoff wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thursday 31 August 2006 12:48 pm, Dave Miner wrote:
>>>> You need a toolkit with which to implement a GUI.  For better or worse,
>>>> Java represents the richest environment for doing so on Solaris, in my
>>>> opinion.  It isn't a significant factor in the performance of the
>>>> install, though, beyond the overhead that we have in setting it up to
>>>> run on the current miniroot, which is completely a result of space
>>>> limitations on the first CD combined with the architecture of the
>>>> current install.
>>> 
>>> Dave,
>>> 
>>> I'd just like to comment that I agree for the most part. I find that a lot 
>>> of
>>> folks tend to bash Java for performance, but it's gotten much better over 
>>> the
>>> past few years.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if it makes more sense over other similar technologies, 
>>> python
>>> for instance (I look at python as being a similar technology;-), but it 
>>> works
>>> and does a good job, IMO. It seems easier for us to extend what we have,
>>> since much of it does use Java today.
>>> 
>>> I think Java is one of the richest programming environments available 
>>> today,
>>> there doesn't seem a good reason that it shouldn't be used.
>> 
>> 
>> 400MB for the installer must be one of the tradeoffs?
>> 
>
> 400 MB of what?
>
> But to go back to part of Alan's mail, the current install actually only uses 
> Java for the GUI; everything else is in C or shell scripts.  I'm doubtful 
> that we'll continue to use the existing SDK for the GUI in implementing the 
> new one, but there are many factors to be weighed in making that decision. 
> I've no experience with Python, for example, but I'd be open to considering 
> its use if it provides the capabilities we need.  An interesting project for 
> someone might be to prototype up a Python UI that generates Jumpstart 
> profiles, for example.

I'm pretty sure I came across 400MB as the requirement for RAM using the 
GUI installer.  There's no question that java is a radically awsome 
technology though, something must be taking up a lot of ram, I had to add 
an extra stick of ram:)


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