> Pidgin, delivered by SUNWgnome-im-client, has a > plugin that depends on one > of the libraries delivered by > SUNWevolution-data-server. So saying that > nothing's harmed by removing the latter isn't > actually true. It may just > be the case that nothing you care about is harmed. > Given that the other > ackages are also large packages with lots of plugins, > I'm assuming that > the dependency is in those for similar reasons. >
Yepp, I see your point and agree. However that does not negate the observation that we somehow have to come up with a long term solution to the "forcibly remove packages" problem, whatever that might look like eventually. Above reasoning is of course correct, and this is all nice and nifty when you assume that OSOL primarily targets the Desktop market, which it looks like to be in my eyes and current SUN/Solaris customers I talk to. But, running it as is in a server/data center environment is something I can hardly see right now "out-of-the box", eventually it boils down to the basic question: "Does Gnome run the box or does the Operating System run the box and enables Gnome usage ?" I'd guess the latter should be the correct answer. In which case I'd either need some sort of "enterprise edition" I can install or I do need a way to strip down the current OSOL installation afterwards to a reasonable server content. Since the "enterprise edition" is not available, a short term solution would be indeed to enable the Admin again to take "ownership" of the system, maybe via a forcibly override/remove. I know this is controversial, but something we probably shouldn't be ignoring in the long term, e.g what do you offer a large ISP that currently uses Solaris 10 on hundreds of systems, striped down to even have X11 removed, systems administered remotely via just asci consoles, everything that runs and does not serve the primary purpose of the server does cost them CPU time, disk and memory usage, power consumption and is thus just not used and removed. This is a real world case, this is not about desktops or laptops, honestly. cheers --- frankB -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
