Shawn Walker wrote: > Chris J wrote: >> I'd agree with both sides. Package boundaries and dependencies need >> to be better thought out, but administrators are not going to be happy >> with IPS if there isn't a way to turn off dependency checking. Too >> many third party publishers are going to get it wrong. >> >> Give us the ability to hang ourselves, since you already gave us ZFS >> snapshots to undo our mistakes. :) > > The issue is that --force options make the system inherently > unmanageable. Once you do one package with --force, it inevitably leads > to a system where nothing can be installed, uninstalled, updated, etc. > without using --force everywhere, and then soon you might as well not > even use a package management system at all. > > The correct answer is to fix the package, and we will be making tools > available that should make that trivially easily. > > Cheers,
while the ultimate solution is to build all packages perfectly, that may not exist for some time(ever). so we must allow users to make their own risk analysis and remover/add things that could break the model. that is their prerogative as users. as builders of tools me must simply warn them of the slippery path that they are about to tread. we should not make a system expert hostile in the name of user friendliness. rich
