On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Frank
Batschulat<Frank.Batschulat at sun.com> wrote:
>> Pidgin, delivered by SUNWgnome-im-client, has a
>> plugin that depends on one
>> of the libraries delivered by
>> SUNWevolution-data-server. ?So saying that
>> nothing's harmed by removing the latter isn't
>> actually true. ?It may just
>> be the case that nothing you care about is harmed.
>> ?Given that the other
>> ackages are also large packages with lots of plugins,
>> I'm assuming that
>> the dependency is in those for similar reasons.
>>
>
> Yepp, I see your point and agree. However that does not negate the observation
> that we somehow have to come up with a long term solution to the
> "forcibly remove packages" problem, whatever that might look like eventually.
>
> Above reasoning is of course correct, and this is all nice and nifty when
> you assume that OSOL primarily targets the Desktop market, which it looks
> like to be in my eyes and current SUN/Solaris customers I talk to.
>
> But, running it as is in a server/data center environment is something
> I can hardly see right now "out-of-the box", eventually it boils down
> to the basic question: "Does Gnome run the box or does the Operating System
> run the box and enables Gnome usage ?" I'd guess the latter should be the 
> correct answer.
> In which case I'd either need some sort of "enterprise edition" I can install
> or I do need a way to strip down the current OSOL installation afterwards to
> a reasonable server content.
>
> Since the "enterprise edition" is not available, a short term solution would
> be indeed to enable the Admin again to take "ownership" of the system, maybe
> via a forcibly override/remove.
>
> I know this is controversial, but something we probably shouldn't be ignoring
> in the long term, e.g what do you offer a large ISP that currently uses 
> Solaris 10
> on hundreds of systems, striped down to even have X11 removed, systems 
> administered remotely via just asci consoles,
> everything that runs and does not serve the primary purpose of the server does
> cost them CPU time, disk and memory usage, power consumption and is thus just 
> not
> used and removed. This is a real world case, this is not about desktops or 
> laptops, honestly.

   The current available and supported option is to use the
Distro-Constructor and
   create your own stripped down enterprise build.

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