It doesn't matter whether or not it's already there. IMHO, given the popularity 
of different overlay technologies such as VXLAN and MPLS-in-UDP in practice, 
GUE initially and mainly targeted as a DC overlay approach has little change to 
be widely deployed within data centers. 
As such, if the only possible applicability of GUE is for directly carrying IP 
over UDP, I don't understand why we need such a overhead associated with the 
variation of GUE. In another word, why not directly assign a port to indicate 
IP-in-UDP, instead of using the GUE protocol variant number to indicate. By the 
way, this the GUE protocol variant number usage reminds me of the notorious 
misuse of the first nibble of the MPLS payload to indicate the type of the MPLS 
payload:)
Xiaohu

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It’s not complex. It’s already there. So there continues to be no reason to 
waste either a port number or further time discussing this draft.
Joe
On May 15, 2018, at 9:01 PM, 徐小虎(义先) <[email protected]> wrote:

IMHO,there seems no need to introduce such complexity into GUE just for the 
purpose of saving one port number.

Xiaohu 





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On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:33 PM, 徐小虎(义先) <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Good question. This draft (draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp) describes a native
> UDP encapsulation scheme for IP packets, which is straightforward and
> light-weighted, just as MPLS-in-UDP [RFC7510] and TRILL-in-UDP
> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-trill-over-ip-16#page-20) and etc.
>
GUE variant 1 implements native UDP encapsulation for IPv4 and IPv6.
Except for a different port number, there is no protocol difference
between that and doing IP in UDP as separate protocol.

Tom


> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
>
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> Cc:intarea-chairs <[email protected]>;
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> Subject:Re: [Int-area] Request a WG adoption call for
> draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp
>
> Should this document make some comment about its relation, or lack of
> relation, to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-intarea-gue ?
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 at 11:53, 徐小虎(义先) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi co-chairs,
>
>> We would like to request a WG adoption call for this draft (
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-07) since it has
> been stable enough and the solution as described in this draft is needed in
> practice.
>
>> Best regards,
>> Xiaohu (on behalf of all co-authors)
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