Hi Hesham,

On Sunday 07 May 2006 01:28, Soliman, Hesham wrote:
> > > The above situation is more difficult to support when a
> > > network-based mobility management mechanism is adopted. In
> > > particular, the following problem arises. An anchor point may
> > > be required to setup a security association with any access
> > > router in the network at any time. A network administrator is
> > > suddenly forced to consider the impacts on memory capacity and
> > > the speed of the security association establishment at the
> > > critical handover time. This situation does not arise when the
> > > signaling is done end-to-end because in this case only
> > > one security association is needed, regardless of the mobile
> > > node's location. Furthermore, the security association does
> > > not need to be established during the critical handover time.
> >
> > And neither does it in a NetLMM case -- the most natural to
> > me would be to pre-configure these, not to try to do it
> > ad-hoc.
>
> => I don't think this is feasible in a practical deployment. I've
> worked on and seen these networks deployed. Imagine a situation
> where you have a 100 - 200 local agents and 10 - 20 K basestations,
> each containing an AR. Now try to manually configure SAs between all
> ARs and all anchors and maintain those SAs, i.e. roll the keys
> ....etc I don't think you'll find many people wanting to manage
> things this way. 

I have to confess that I fail to understand how on one hand it can be 
unfeasible to manage SAs between 100-200 local agents and 10-20K base 
stations, while on the other hand there are mobile operators which 
manage on a daily basis SAs with tens of millions of subscribers.

--julien

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