> -----Original Message-----
> From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 22 October 2007 11:09
> To: Wojciech Dec (wdec)
> Cc: Ralph Droms (rdroms); Internet Area
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] DCHP-based authentication for DSL?
> 
> On 22-okt-2007, at 11:04, Wojciech Dec (wdec) wrote:
> 
> > Speaking as a DSL Forum participant: Both PANA and 802.1x have been 
> > previously presented at the DSL Forum in the context of TR-101 and
> > WT-146 work. PANA in particular was presented by one of the 
> framework 
> > draft co-authors. The fact that the DSLF chose to express "serious 
> > interest" in a based DHCP solution says the rest.
> 
> Well then, let's hear what the DSL Forum has to say about the 
> issues surrounding upgrading existing DHCP implementation in 
> host OSes, which, as far as I can tell, can only be done by 
> their vendors (i.e., Microsoft and Apple), and how to address 
> IPv6, both with and without
> IPv4 and with and without DHCPv6.

Are you seeking to ask the DSLF to design the protocol or answer on
behalf of Microsoft?
Seriously, I believe that the DSLF has come to the IETF seeking progress
on a solution that conceptually "fits the bill" (ie the requirements)
from the SDO perceived as owning the (DHCP) protocol definition. It
would be rather disingenious for the IETF to seek from the DSLF answers
on how OS specific implementations should be carried out, or specifics
on how protocol should be designed.
Further note: In the DSLF the target devices for incorporating a
subscriber authentication mechanism ones that are provided by the SP (eg
video STB's, DSL Routers), and here the stacks are much more
controllable. PC End hosts, while not not being totally ruled out, are
of secondary importance. That said, AFAIK how a DHCP based solution will
be implemented is still TBD, and so saying that it will require a full
change of stack is premature.

-Woj.

> 
> Iljitsch
> 


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