On 2 dec 2007, at 14:34, Richard Pruss wrote:

Alper, I am sorry that you are not getting this but I believe that adding software to PC's are specifically out of scope. Any SP who has deployed something like PPPoE clients onto an end-users PC have an allergic reaction to adding things to customer PC's.

From reading the stuff posted to this list I don't believe this to be out of scope.

What I'm afraid of is a solution that is very hard or impossible to deploy on common operating systems without the help from their vendor so a CPE device is always necessary. The problem with that is that with IPv4, customers typically only get a single address (I don't see a way for DHCP to provide multiple) so that this CPE must implement NAT functionality. NAT is never good, but there's a big difference between a reasonable NAT and a bad one. So it's extremely important for users to have a choice here. If service providers give customers CPEs that integrate the modem and NAT functions this means consumers are no longer in charge of their own destiny in this regard.


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