> From: Alper Yegin, December 03, 2007 5:08 PM
> 
> > On the other hand, if the IETF doesn't do a standard, then we're 
> > really hosed, because the ISPs may implement solutions for which the
> 
> IETF has already done a standard exactly for this problem: PANA. 

If PANA was the right tool to solve this problem, then I would gladly
help implement it.  For reasons already well discussed on this alias, I
see the operational complexities on the CPE as unnecessary (& possibly
prohibitive), at least for the Broadband marketplace.  

IMHO, 802.1af is the next best option to DHCP Auth for a standards based
alternative.  But 802.1af is still quite early in its process.  I am
with Ted in hoping that we don't assist in driving proprietary
alternatives in any interim. 
 
> What we are discussing is additionally defining another 
> protocol, a fully redundant one (putting aside all of its 
> problems), just because some like that other protocol. 
> 
> 
> Alper
> 
> 
> 
> > protocol is not specified in an open way.   So refusing to cooperate
> > here may cause more harm than good - it would be better if we could 
> > find a solution that's acceptable to everyone, even if it 
> is not one 
> > that everyone can love (do we ever have one of those?).
> > 


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