Get your facts straight. A geforce 4 mx440 beats the crap out of a
fx5200 in every possible way, except shaders because it doesn't
support them. and both fx5600 and 5700 were the true fails of the fx
series. fx5900 had acceptable performance and fx5500 was a good
replacement for the 5200.

On Jun 27, 5:19 pm, lolattheotherguy <[email protected]>
wrote:
> lol yea comparing an fx to an mx....
> mx was like a budget solution, but imo a huge FAIL. I'm glad i never
> had one. I still run a desktop with an fx5600 and its quite decent for
> its price (well was, a long time ago).
> in a far fetched opinion mx is more like a celeron if you really want
> to compare it to something. in other words its just  crap.
>
> On Jun 27, 4:13 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > You ever had a geforce 4 or fx? While geforce 2 and 4 mx were just
> > rebrands, fx was a different series, and while fx5200 had pixel shader
> > 2.0b, it had lower clocks than geforce 4, so if you were playing non
> > shaded games, they would run faster with the geforce 4. If you're
> > looking for an agp card, go for a geforce 7300 or 7600, both are cheap
> > and if you can find a 7600 at good price, go for it.
>
> > On Jun 27, 3:05 pm, gma3100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > hmm but i swore i played counter strike source on geforce 4 mx and my
> > > old pentium 4 ahh good times gooood times
> > > wow ure right i saw on wikipedia now thats weird hmm
> > > ok but i saw on youtube that episode 2  could run full speed on
> > > geforce fx 5200 which is almost the same cept of dx9 support..which
> > > sucks
> > > what about team fortress 2... and they are selling fx 5500 for at
> > > least 32.50 usd in singapore which is 65 singapore dollars
> > > and yes for me as long as its 10 fps it'll go im not the fussy kind of
> > > gamer but as long as the game is good
>
> > > On Jun 27, 6:28 am, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I get you wanting to play it at any cost, and that's why you run it
> > > > entirely on the cpu.
> > > > And geforce 4 mx does not have any shaders, only ti series.
>
> > > > On Jun 27, 11:28 am, gma3100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > No no 3danalyse is for games that give you something like"Hardware
> > > > > does not support shader pixel 2.0b/a Application closing" or to
> > > > > increase performance
> > > > > dude u should have read the last part "tf2 cept... BSOD XD" I get a
> > > > > bsod that says something about gma dlls
> > > > > So i know its the graphics card so i turn to swiftshader to get at
> > > > > least 20 fps.and btw there is no graphical glitches
> > > > > cept i get 20 fps at freaking all low with fps config and dx 8.0 Lolz
> > > > > Cpus are awesome :)
> > > > > and btw team fortress 2 could run on a geforce 4 mx it requires shader
> > > > > pixel 1.1 which even 2003/2004 hardware has
> > > > > so gma 900 all the way to Intel hd graphics could run this game its
> > > > > just that some lazy intel(I said intel not modders)workers dont care
> > > > > about their customers and dun code properly...But well I think win7
> > > > > could fix this too bad now swiftshader doesnt work cos it gives me the
> > > > > old"The memory could not be read"error.Dumb updates.
>
> > > > > On Jun 26, 9:14 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Listen, if a game doesn't run because it lacks a certain hardware
> > > > > > feature then you emulate it through 3danalyze or any other software
> > > > > > that does the trick, but if you have a game that may have or not
> > > > > > graphical glitches and runs at 20fps, you certainly won't run it
> > > > > > through swiftshader just so you can look at a pretty slideshow of
> > > > > > 1fps. If you can run a game at 60fps then you would never even touch
> > > > > > it with swiftshader, you would be much better served with 3danalyze.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 27, 5:10 am, gma3100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > well im not asking you to use swiftshader on a game that well can
> > > > > > > already work on the gma 950
> > > > > > > but the others are what i always do when i get low fps
> > > > > > > with those methods i managed to get tf2 running on swiftshader at
> > > > > > > 20fps average
> > > > > > > but now without swiftshader i get like 60 fps average at all low 
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > tf2 cept...
> > > > > > > BSOD XD
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 26, 9:04 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Again, 10fps isn't playable for any game, not to mention that 
> > > > > > > > tiny
> > > > > > > > resolution you're mentioning. You should learn what you need 
> > > > > > > > and what
> > > > > > > > you don't regarding services so you don't use additional 
> > > > > > > > software that
> > > > > > > > just isn't worth it's filesize.
> > > > > > > > If swiftshader was rewrote from the ground and had, lets say, a 
> > > > > > > > 500%
> > > > > > > > performance increase, then perhaps it would be worthy. But 
> > > > > > > > since none
> > > > > > > > of us have computers with 24 cores then I don't really think 
> > > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > digit fps are worth the hassle.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 4:51 am, gma3100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > lolz but i remember alpha 1 gave bad fps some say
> > > > > > > > > i have no idea cos i dun have win7 XD
> > > > > > > > > lolz for me having bad fps in a game is no problem most of 
> > > > > > > > > the time
> > > > > > > > > for me its just that the game cant run
> > > > > > > > > recomandded:640x480 all low With Game booster Game 
> > > > > > > > > accelerator and
> > > > > > > > > gaming profile and off all unnecessary services
> > > > > > > > > all of this got me at least 10 fps average on cod4 on 
> > > > > > > > > swiftshader XD
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 7:52 am, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > It has some optional levels that only run on true physx 
> > > > > > > > > > hardware.
> > > > > > > > > > Think of it like assassins creed, crysis, and the likes, 
> > > > > > > > > > meaning just
> > > > > > > > > > another game gma 950 won't play.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 3:21 pm, hussam aulaian <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > GHost Recon advanced warfighter needs an external Phyx 
> > > > > > > > > > > card as i remember
> > > > > > > > > > > reading abt it in 2005
> > > > > > > > > > > as we tried running it on Desktop with AMD Athlon 64 3000+
> > > > > > > > > > > with and ASUS MB and XFX Nvidia Geforce 6600 GT
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