Unlike others, I never said ultimate was faster, but giving the fact
that they said home premium was faster than ultimate, then it's
obvious that ultimate can be made much faster than home premium. At
their base, they both have a win7 core, like you said.

About home premium becoming a ultimate version, that just can't happen
because of the simple fact that ultimate has tools that can't be
installed through windows update or by standalone hotfixes, they just
come with ultimate, and never did with home premium (vista and 7). And
a big lol at the mere thought of existing any difference in aero
between versions. There's starter (tier 0), home basic (tier 1), and
all the others (tier 2). Not so hard to understand :) And in case
someone argues with it, M$ also states that, and I think they might
know how to categorize windows versions...

I'm surprised you switched av sw, specially for M$!? :S But then
again, IT security goes beyond sw usage, and if you feel good with it,
and are protected enough to both avoid being infected and infecting
others, then go for it :)

The really worrying part is, how far will M$ go to turn windows into a
noob/newb friendly OS? How will the power users be affected? There is
already a ton of features that disappeared since vista, some which can
be restored through official and/or unofficial patches, but still can
be quite some work.

One final note about win7 hp and ultimate. When extra tools have
nothing to do with boot, logon, services, dependencies, etc, they
won't affect performance one bit, will just be extra bytes laying
around on the hdd.

And yes Angelic, ultimate has a terrible thing, that home premium is
much better. The price! :D

On 5 Jan, 08:12, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> come on guys... court order! :P
>
> well, i can clear out for u guys...
> well, im not an expert but i can tell u the difference..
>
> ultimate and home premium is indeed have several differences...
> but basically both are the same, it is true that Home Premium or other
> version of 7 is a handicapped version of ultimate, BUT that doesnt make it
> "lighter" than ultimate...
> windows sold them cheap because of its lack of compatibility parts /
> service,
>
> i believe when a person using Home Premium for example, and he / she install
> all the basic "must have" application / service such as .NET 4, VC Runtime,
> and other DirectX or networking service, the Home premium it self will
> eventually became "Ultimate" with all that add on installed...most of users
> dont realize that over 6 month of time, a win7 Home premium will become
> ultimate with upgrades / add on and compatibility windows upgrade..it's
> nothing any difference between both, unless u said 7 Starters vs Hmoe
> premium / ultimate, that my friend is a whole new discussion...even games do
> require microsofts addon suc as DirectX update, VC runtime and stuffs like
> that which Ultimate already have...so there's no difference when Home have
> been installed with all that upgrade...
>
> also to say that Ultimate is faster than Home is not entirely correct, yes
> indeed it start faster than Ultimate, no doubt about that, but a mere
> difference of 2 - 3 seconds in term of clean install boot up of both win7
> version...but for every day usage, both are the same, win7 core have been
> optimized for performance, and design for a complete noob end users..meaning
> the service will actually turn off automatically with having users to
> disable / stop the service...and win7 core actually learns users
> requirements of service to use and what dont use regularly...
>
> as for eye candy, both are the same, not any different imo, both have
> Aero...the only difference (correct me if im wrong ) is the wallpaper.. :P
>
> as i said, both have good and bad , i myself havent use anything than
> Ultimate , mainly because of its compatibility, most parts of "service"
> already there so i dont have to worry a bit about installing anything and
> downloading from microsoft or Microsoft update (despite i have a pirated
> one)
>
> as for performance, meh, my family desktop have Home Premium, so far there's
> no difference between both..although i hate when i installed new application
> on that Home system, mainly there's too much download ( updates and stuffs)
>
> as for security, meh, both are the same... im using Microsoft Security
> Essential 2.0 ( @tribaljet, sorry for ditching Kaspersky, truly sorry :( i
> have to try MSE and for a while it is veery3 good :) no false alert and 98%
> accurate, even both ESET and Kaspersky dont even detect :) )
> and both perform fine, and like i said, boot up time only difference aobut 2
> -3 second...i guess...so as far as i notice,, it's the same for me...
>
> im just saying my opinion, both have their good and bad...and am not
> offending anyone :)
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:21 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The specific tools I use don't increase memory or cpu usage at all.
> > Know your facts. And I certainly recognize when I'm wrong, mainly to
> > people who understand and know what it's all about. You haven't shown
> > that. Period.
>
> > --
> > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
>
>

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