The thing is that getting quality sound is not really expensive, even
for laptops :) But the real trick is that a good set of headphones has
really much better sound that speakers costing 3x as much

On 5 Jan, 22:56, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I got a stereo speaker setup for $13 with sound being produced by an
> intergrated IDT chip, so my sound experience is awesome haha
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:51 PM, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > It's alright, I got subs connected to my speakers so I got that rich
> > bassy sound lol. Thanks for the help BTW, I appreciate it.
>
> > On Jan 5, 2:48 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Then get ready for full EAX gaming, and detailed audio for both music
> >> and movies ;) Btw, what is the average quality of your music and
> >> movies?
>
> >> On 5 Jan, 22:28, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > Well right now, I have to wait for my paycheck on Friday, but after
> >> > that I'm go to go :)
>
> >> > On Jan 5, 2:22 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > I'm eager to know what do you find of the synergy between that gear :)
> >> > > Are you planning on getting it soon?
>
> >> > > On 5 Jan, 15:52, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Thanks for the advice! I'll be sure to try to get the m50's and a new
> >> > > > soundcard.
>
> >> > > > On Jan 4, 9:47 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > One last thing, the money you save by getting the x-fi surround 
> >> > > > > 5.1,
> >> > > > > use it to add to the money you'll put together and get the m50 :)
> >> > > > > Seriously, it's the best pair of headphones you can get at that 
> >> > > > > price.
>
> >> > > > > On 5 Jan, 05:33, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Oh, the closer to 100$ you are for M50's, the better the deal. 
> >> > > > > > It's
> >> > > > > > interesting that people that own M50's and headphones costing 10x
> >> > > > > > more, still listen to their M50's without any regret or frown 
> >> > > > > > when
> >> > > > > > coming from their more expensive ones. I would compare them to
> >> > > > > > computers, but computers have less price ranges :S
>
> >> > > > > > On 5 Jan, 05:19, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > The thing is that creatives still rule when it comes to 
> >> > > > > > > gaming, but
> >> > > > > > > for music and video they're not the best choice. Overall, it's 
> >> > > > > > > a good
> >> > > > > > > and not expensive upgrade, I do recommend it. If you get it, 
> >> > > > > > > mail me
> >> > > > > > > and I'll show you how to mod it :)
>
> >> > > > > > > Those sennheisers are nice, but their build quality is not so 
> >> > > > > > > good,
> >> > > > > > > they tend to break a bit too often. If you can, try to get a 
> >> > > > > > > pair of
> >> > > > > > > Audio-Technica ATH-M50, you will literally crap your pants 
> >> > > > > > > with their
> >> > > > > > > sound :) If you really want sennheisers, and you can find them 
> >> > > > > > > cheap,
> >> > > > > > > the Sennheiser HD25 SP II are quite good, though getting them 
> >> > > > > > > at the
> >> > > > > > > price of both HD280 and M50 can be difficult. I really 
> >> > > > > > > recommend the
> >> > > > > > > M50 though, it will blow your mind :D
>
> >> > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 05:07, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > I use my PC for music, media, and gaming lol. I'll probably 
> >> > > > > > > > take your
> >> > > > > > > > advice on the Surround 5.1 even though it's out of stock at 
> >> > > > > > > > NewEgg :(.
> >> > > > > > > > I'll still wait for it though. Thanks for the help! 
> >> > > > > > > > Concerning my
> >> > > > > > > > headphones, it's all because of the slaps :D. I'll probably 
> >> > > > > > > > just get
> >> > > > > > > > these 
> >> > > > > > > > headphoneshttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106328
> >> > > > > > > > if my budget allows me, headphones aren't really my priority.
> >> > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 8:56 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > HT Omega is quite nice, but definitely more for a media 
> >> > > > > > > > > computer,
> >> > > > > > > > > forget about gaming with that. If you use your pc mainly 
> >> > > > > > > > > for music and
> >> > > > > > > > > video, then stick with the HT Omega. If you game, then 
> >> > > > > > > > > something with
> >> > > > > > > > > a x-fi chip is essential. You have a Creative X-Fi 
> >> > > > > > > > > XtremeGamer
> >> > > > > > > > > Fatal1ty Pro for 100$, a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi 
> >> > > > > > > > > Surround 5.1 USB
> >> > > > > > > > > for 55$, and a Auzentech X-Fi Bravura for 120$ with 
> >> > > > > > > > > improved
> >> > > > > > > > > components. Do you listen to music, movies, games? If you 
> >> > > > > > > > > really want
> >> > > > > > > > > to start little by little, I would advise on getting the 
> >> > > > > > > > > X-Fi Surround
> >> > > > > > > > > 5.1, as it has digital connections for your speakers, much 
> >> > > > > > > > > better
> >> > > > > > > > > opamps than what you have at both your desktop and laptop, 
> >> > > > > > > > > and that
> >> > > > > > > > > would help you train your ears for better things to 
> >> > > > > > > > > come... Besides
> >> > > > > > > > > being the cheapest alternative that would get you a much 
> >> > > > > > > > > better sound
> >> > > > > > > > > than onboard crap, you would actually be able to listen to 
> >> > > > > > > > > good
> >> > > > > > > > > quality sound on your laptop. Seriously, you don't know 
> >> > > > > > > > > how crappy
> >> > > > > > > > > onboard sound is until you listened to a discreet 
> >> > > > > > > > > soundcard or DAC :)
>
> >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to say, but your headphones are low end (not 
> >> > > > > > > > > dirt cheap,
> >> > > > > > > > > though:) ), more or less between my Philips SHP2000 and my 
> >> > > > > > > > > Technics RP-
> >> > > > > > > > > F290. You got those Sennheisers because you liked the 
> >> > > > > > > > > sound signature
> >> > > > > > > > > of them, or for other reason? What kind of things do you 
> >> > > > > > > > > like in
> >> > > > > > > > > music, a wider sound (like if the sound came from 
> >> > > > > > > > > speakers), better
> >> > > > > > > > > low end (bass), midrange, treble?
>
> >> > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 04:28, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> 
> >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > I was just looking for a low-end starter sound card for 
> >> > > > > > > > > > now and later
> >> > > > > > > > > > upgrade to a more higher end one. I use speakers 
> >> > > > > > > > > > (digital) but
> >> > > > > > > > > > occasionally use headphones (mid-end Sennheiser DJs 
> >> > > > > > > > > > HD202) when
> >> > > > > > > > > > company come over.....
> >> > > > > > > > > > I was looking at this sound card for my 
> >> > > > > > > > > > desktophttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271001
> >> > > > > > > > > > I don't really mind my lappy using a integrated sound 
> >> > > > > > > > > > card, I mostly
> >> > > > > > > > > > just use it for work and such.
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 8:12 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> 
> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > What kind of soundcard were you looking for? Do you 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > listen through
> >> > > > > > > > > > > speakers (analog or digital?), headphones (IEMs, full 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > size, dirt
> >> > > > > > > > > > > cheap, low, mid, high, ultra, insane end?), do you 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > want to use the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > same soundcard on both your desktop and your laptop?
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 04:10, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > I know, if it was slapped with a mid-end discrete 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > gpu, it would be
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > classified a low-end gaming laptop lol.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Damn I still need a soundcard for my desktop :(
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 8:04 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and those soundcards also have modded drivers, 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > both lightweight
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > and with sound mods :)
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 04:03, tribaljet <[email protected]> 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, your cpu is a very different story :) that 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > explains the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > performance you get on several games.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Software wise, FMOD is the best software 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderer. Hardware wise,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenAL is the better option. Games went through 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a rough time between
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the end of DS3D and the first version of OpenAL, 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but now with both
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > FMOD and refined OpenAL, gaming audio is quite 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fine.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I still recommend anyone who wants much better 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio than those
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > onboard chipsets, to get a x-fi go usb, or a 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > x-fi surround 5.1 usb for
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > both optical and 5.1 output. Any of those makes 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a world of difference
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in audio, be it games, music or movies.
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 03:58, UncleFerassi 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Tribal
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My specs are on my profile :)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the 1.0 so I'm all good :D
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Espi
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the retexturing link :) I'll be 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sure to reinstall UT GOTY
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for my comp and try this sucker out.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To the sound renderer topic, I prefer OpenAL 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because its 3D audio
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > positioning work better than FMod. FMod 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however has a very good
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quality and has a really good working audio 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > library.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 7:11 pm, tribaljet 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The difference is that OpenAL enables audio 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acceleration. Of course
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the quality of both the audio 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hardware/chipset as well as the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > driver, do make a lot of difference. Don't 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forget that some onboard
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chipsets don't resample audio so well, so 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > windows audio settings might
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to be lowered to gain both some fps and 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better audio overall.
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 03:09, Espionage724 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meh I think OpenAL and FMOD sounded about 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same to me, but I forget
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the conditions were, but when trying 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to use Hardware audio on one
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the 2 audio renders, it would have a 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (lot) higher pitch on all
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds (I'm thinking this was on XP on my 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 950GMA laptop with Realtek
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HDA)
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 PM, tribaljet 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last time I played it,
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