I feel like I'm missing out on the awesomeness of sound with my main
computer being a laptop.... lol

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:28 PM, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well right now, I have to wait for my paycheck on Friday, but after
> that I'm go to go :)
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> On Jan 5, 2:22 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm eager to know what do you find of the synergy between that gear :)
>> Are you planning on getting it soon?
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>> On 5 Jan, 15:52, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > Thanks for the advice! I'll be sure to try to get the m50's and a new
>> > soundcard.
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>> > On Jan 4, 9:47 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > One last thing, the money you save by getting the x-fi surround 5.1,
>> > > use it to add to the money you'll put together and get the m50 :)
>> > > Seriously, it's the best pair of headphones you can get at that price.
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>> > > On 5 Jan, 05:33, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > Oh, the closer to 100$ you are for M50's, the better the deal. It's
>> > > > interesting that people that own M50's and headphones costing 10x
>> > > > more, still listen to their M50's without any regret or frown when
>> > > > coming from their more expensive ones. I would compare them to
>> > > > computers, but computers have less price ranges :S
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>> > > > On 5 Jan, 05:19, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > The thing is that creatives still rule when it comes to gaming, but
>> > > > > for music and video they're not the best choice. Overall, it's a good
>> > > > > and not expensive upgrade, I do recommend it. If you get it, mail me
>> > > > > and I'll show you how to mod it :)
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>> > > > > Those sennheisers are nice, but their build quality is not so good,
>> > > > > they tend to break a bit too often. If you can, try to get a pair of
>> > > > > Audio-Technica ATH-M50, you will literally crap your pants with their
>> > > > > sound :) If you really want sennheisers, and you can find them cheap,
>> > > > > the Sennheiser HD25 SP II are quite good, though getting them at the
>> > > > > price of both HD280 and M50 can be difficult. I really recommend the
>> > > > > M50 though, it will blow your mind :D
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>> > > > > On 5 Jan, 05:07, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > I use my PC for music, media, and gaming lol. I'll probably take 
>> > > > > > your
>> > > > > > advice on the Surround 5.1 even though it's out of stock at NewEgg 
>> > > > > > :(.
>> > > > > > I'll still wait for it though. Thanks for the help! Concerning my
>> > > > > > headphones, it's all because of the slaps :D. I'll probably just 
>> > > > > > get
>> > > > > > these 
>> > > > > > headphoneshttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106328
>> > > > > > if my budget allows me, headphones aren't really my priority.
>> > > > > > On Jan 4, 8:56 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > HT Omega is quite nice, but definitely more for a media computer,
>> > > > > > > forget about gaming with that. If you use your pc mainly for 
>> > > > > > > music and
>> > > > > > > video, then stick with the HT Omega. If you game, then something 
>> > > > > > > with
>> > > > > > > a x-fi chip is essential. You have a Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer
>> > > > > > > Fatal1ty Pro for 100$, a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 
>> > > > > > > 5.1 USB
>> > > > > > > for 55$, and a Auzentech X-Fi Bravura for 120$ with improved
>> > > > > > > components. Do you listen to music, movies, games? If you really 
>> > > > > > > want
>> > > > > > > to start little by little, I would advise on getting the X-Fi 
>> > > > > > > Surround
>> > > > > > > 5.1, as it has digital connections for your speakers, much better
>> > > > > > > opamps than what you have at both your desktop and laptop, and 
>> > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > would help you train your ears for better things to come... 
>> > > > > > > Besides
>> > > > > > > being the cheapest alternative that would get you a much better 
>> > > > > > > sound
>> > > > > > > than onboard crap, you would actually be able to listen to good
>> > > > > > > quality sound on your laptop. Seriously, you don't know how 
>> > > > > > > crappy
>> > > > > > > onboard sound is until you listened to a discreet soundcard or 
>> > > > > > > DAC :)
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>> > > > > > > I'm sorry to say, but your headphones are low end (not dirt 
>> > > > > > > cheap,
>> > > > > > > though:) ), more or less between my Philips SHP2000 and my 
>> > > > > > > Technics RP-
>> > > > > > > F290. You got those Sennheisers because you liked the sound 
>> > > > > > > signature
>> > > > > > > of them, or for other reason? What kind of things do you like in
>> > > > > > > music, a wider sound (like if the sound came from speakers), 
>> > > > > > > better
>> > > > > > > low end (bass), midrange, treble?
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>> > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 04:28, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > I was just looking for a low-end starter sound card for now 
>> > > > > > > > and later
>> > > > > > > > upgrade to a more higher end one. I use speakers (digital) but
>> > > > > > > > occasionally use headphones (mid-end Sennheiser DJs HD202) when
>> > > > > > > > company come over.....
>> > > > > > > > I was looking at this sound card for my 
>> > > > > > > > desktophttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271001
>> > > > > > > > I don't really mind my lappy using a integrated sound card, I 
>> > > > > > > > mostly
>> > > > > > > > just use it for work and such.
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>> > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 8:12 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > What kind of soundcard were you looking for? Do you listen 
>> > > > > > > > > through
>> > > > > > > > > speakers (analog or digital?), headphones (IEMs, full size, 
>> > > > > > > > > dirt
>> > > > > > > > > cheap, low, mid, high, ultra, insane end?), do you want to 
>> > > > > > > > > use the
>> > > > > > > > > same soundcard on both your desktop and your laptop?
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>> > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 04:10, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > > I know, if it was slapped with a mid-end discrete gpu, it 
>> > > > > > > > > > would be
>> > > > > > > > > > classified a low-end gaming laptop lol.
>> > > > > > > > > > Damn I still need a soundcard for my desktop :(
>> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 8:04 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and those soundcards also have modded drivers, both 
>> > > > > > > > > > > lightweight
>> > > > > > > > > > > and with sound mods :)
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>> > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 04:03, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, your cpu is a very different story :) that 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > explains the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > performance you get on several games.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Software wise, FMOD is the best software renderer. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Hardware wise,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > OpenAL is the better option. Games went through a 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > rough time between
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the end of DS3D and the first version of OpenAL, but 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > now with both
>> > > > > > > > > > > > FMOD and refined OpenAL, gaming audio is quite fine.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I still recommend anyone who wants much better audio 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > than those
>> > > > > > > > > > > > onboard chipsets, to get a x-fi go usb, or a x-fi 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > surround 5.1 usb for
>> > > > > > > > > > > > both optical and 5.1 output. Any of those makes a 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > world of difference
>> > > > > > > > > > > > in audio, be it games, music or movies.
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 03:58, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > > @Tribal
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > My specs are on my profile :)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the 1.0 so I'm all good :D
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > @Espi
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the retexturing link :) I'll be sure to 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > reinstall UT GOTY
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > for my comp and try this sucker out.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > To the sound renderer topic, I prefer OpenAL because 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > its 3D audio
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > positioning work better than FMod. FMod however has 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > a very good
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > quality and has a really good working audio library.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 7:11 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The difference is that OpenAL enables audio 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > acceleration. Of course
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the quality of both the audio 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hardware/chipset as well as the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > driver, do make a lot of difference. Don't forget 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that some onboard
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chipsets don't resample audio so well, so windows 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio settings might
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to be lowered to gain both some fps and 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > better audio overall.
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 03:09, Espionage724 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meh I think OpenAL and FMOD sounded about the 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same to me, but I forget
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the conditions were, but when trying to use 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hardware audio on one
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the 2 audio renders, it would have a (lot) 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > higher pitch on all
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds (I'm thinking this was on XP on my 950GMA 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > laptop with Realtek
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HDA)
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 PM, tribaljet 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last time I played it, OpenAL wasn't an option 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yet. I always recommend
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenAL for most users, as well as me when 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using my DAC instead of x-
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi. How's the quality of the OpenAL renderer? 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I do understand you
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using FMOD instead of the default audio 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderer, it was kinda
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > finnicky :)
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 03:00, Espionage724 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Yea, UT99 or the Goty version of it, also I 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> cant use the Galaxy
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> (default) audio render cuz it plays corrupted 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> audio for some reason on
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 7 for me (other option is OpenAL also)
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:40 PM, tribaljet 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Luckily I was able to get a first version 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > :) But anyway, if any of you
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > guys have a second version, I posted a 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > downgrade patch a few days ago
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > here, on the first topic about gta sa 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > online.
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Espi, is that for UT99?? That big of a pack 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > must have kickass
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > textures :D I only disagree with FMOD, that 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > while being quite nice,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > still isn't match for audio hardware 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > renderers, which can be emulated...
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