latency is also a concern for Frets on Fire/Guitar Hero 3/WT players
lol, but I wouldnt base an audio device just for those 3 games...

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:17 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, there are two cheap upgrades from creative, one is a creative x-
> fi go usb (I have one myself) for 50 or 40$, and the other is a
> creative x-fi surround 5.1 usb for 55-65$. I know they are more or
> less 20$ apart in price. The x-fi go has stereo/2.1 analog output,
> while the x-fi surround 5.1 has analog and digital 5.1 output, a
> digital volume knob and a remote control. If you just need stereo
> output, then the x-fi go would serve you perfectly. What speakers/
> headphones do you listen to?
>
> Latency is something that only bothers people who are editing,
> recording and creating audio, and cpu spikes usually only happen with
> buggy drivers of faulty hardware design, which I didn't have with the
> x-fi go, but I have now with a more expensive soundcard :S
>
> On 7 Jan, 14:00, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
>> well, the default player for ubuntu, Rythembox do played well, but not as
>> good as the one ur mentioned...
>> sorry for the confusion, i have windows 7 for my desktop and full ubuntu for
>> my laptop :)
>>
>> i do actually consider an usb sound adapter, but im not sure how well it
>> performs in real world, things like sound latency and CPU spike best be
>> avoid .. :)
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Damn, I couldn't find anything that would enable me to force WASAPI on
>> > a specific app, other than apps supporting it by their own :S
>>
>> > Well, first there are no real hardcore players on linux, most are on
>> > windows and one on osx. Wait, which OSes you have on which machine?
>> > And would a usb sound card be good for you, enabling you to use it on
>> > both computers?
>>
>> > On 6 Jan, 10:12, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > in this case, it's for my desktop...as for laptop, im not game much with
>> > my
>> > > laptop, so ubuntu + music is enough for my ear drums :)
>>
>> > > ah yes, now u mentioned, it does play better than XP, but i'll have to
>> > hear
>> > > my entire collection to knowthe difference, i am satisfied now with that
>> > > WASAPI output plugin :)
>> > > can it be done? i mean, game audio stream through WASAPI??
>>
>> > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:32 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > And what do you use to listen, speakers or headphones?
>>
>> > > > On 6 Jan, 03:30, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > Great to hear man :) But don't make any mistakes, vista/7 have audio
>> > > > > like xp never had. Xp has a very terrible quality kmixer that messed
>> > > > > the sound stream, while now you can have bit perfect sound, played
>> > > > > exactly as it was meant to be played. But you talking about something
>> > > > > like that for games, and that makes me wonder a few things, I'll have
>> > > > > to investigate further, but maybe that's possible.
>>
>> > > > > A sound card, you say? For a laptop, desktop? What do you want from
>> > > > > the sound card, in terms of audio, music, movies, games?
>>
>> > > > > On 6 Jan, 03:25, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > speaking of which , ive tried tribaljet's advice not long ago...and
>> > > > > > currently using winamp with Maiko_out plugin ( plugin for WASAPI
>> > > > output.)
>> > > > > > and i have to say, the quality is great despite i have an on board
>> > > > (realtek
>> > > > > > R888S i think ) connected to an AIWA old Hi-Fi system..lol...and i
>> > have
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > say, this WASAPI thing really gives back my XP sound experience in
>> > > > music,
>> > > > > > too bad there's none for gaming, also looking forward for a cheap
>> > sound
>> > > > > > card, if any... :(
>>
>> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > For proper DVD menus navigation, you have to configure the
>> > keyboard
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > your liking, as the mouse can interfere with regular playback
>> > > > > > > functions. You can always select directly the movie, audio and
>> > > > > > > subtitle languages instead of going through the menus. It plays
>> > 720
>> > > > > > > and 1080p like a champ :) But still regarding DVDs, powerdvd
>> > really
>> > > > is
>> > > > > > > the king on that domain, but since I don't play dvds anymore
>> > (either
>> > > > > > > other formats your backed them up), I don't have the need for it
>> > > > > > > anymore. Though their decoder is very nice, half of its power.
>> > > > > > > Forget DFX, uninstall it and never look back. I know you use
>> > > > > > > MediaMonkey because of it's library management features, which is
>> > > > > > > excellent, but I wouln't use it for playback. At least, last time
>> > I
>> > > > > > > checked it didn't support WASAPI. If you want a serious player
>> > (not
>> > > > > > > media manager), try foobar2000, and also check it's 18 step EQ :)
>> > But
>> > > > > > > be warned, it's a rather ugly player, compared to pretty ones
>> > like
>> > > > > > > wmp, winamp, etc. It's less pretty and more functional, though it
>> > can
>> > > > > > > be skinned to be more beautiful than any player out there ;) You
>> > > > could
>> > > > > > > manage your library with MediaMonkey, and playback with foobar.
>>
>> > > > > > > On 6 Jan, 00:04, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > Oh lol. My bit depth is 24 bit and my sampling rate is 48000
>> > Hz. I
>> > > > > > > > have good experiences with MPC but one problem that I had with
>> > it
>> > > > was
>> > > > > > > > it was being wonky with playing movies off DVDs idk why. DFX is
>> > > > being
>> > > > > > > > a bitch to me right now so I'm probably just going to go cold
>> > > > turkey
>> > > > > > > > and uninstall it lol.
>>
>> > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 3:47 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > Nice, I do have quite some respect for MediaMonkey users :)
>> > VLC
>> > > > on the
>> > > > > > > > > other hand, not so much. I understand its versatility, with
>> > its
>> > > > own
>> > > > > > > > > codec package, but I've been an avid user of Media Player
>> > Classic
>> > > > for
>> > > > > > > > > years, and I select which codecs I use. It makes a world of
>> > > > difference
>> > > > > > > > > for hd video, for instance. VLC only has a relatively good
>> > video
>> > > > > > > > > streaming feature, though it doesn't even touch XMBC ;)
>> > > > > > > > > We will have to work to get you out of that drug that is DFX.
>> > If
>> > > > you
>> > > > > > > > > have real audio hw, you can EQ the hw, which currently is not
>> > > > your
>> > > > > > > > > case. When I spoke of audio hw settings, I also meant bit
>> > depth
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > sampling rate.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 23:34, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > Lol thanks. I use MediaMonkey for Music, VLC for Videos. I
>> > use
>> > > > DFX
>> > > > > > > > > > Audio Enhancer to control my EQ and my audio hw settings
>> > are at
>> > > > > > > > > > default (normal balance, no enhancements, 100% levels lol)
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 3:22 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > I don't judge at all. There's a huge difference between
>> > > > internet
>> > > > > > > mp3
>> > > > > > > > > > > and bought music, be it legit mp3, aac, or hd audio.
>> > > > > > > > > > > It's not that's a bad onboard chipset, but it's an
>> > onboard
>> > > > chipset,
>> > > > > > > so
>> > > > > > > > > > > it inherently sucks :) What are your audio hw settings,
>> > what
>> > > > player
>> > > > > > > do
>> > > > > > > > > > > you use, any EQ?
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 23:18, UncleFerassi <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Oh lol.My music all pretty much have AAC 256kbps
>> > bitrate
>> > > > and my
>> > > > > > > > > > > > current onboard audio chipset is I believe to be a
>> > RealTek
>> > > > > > > ALC888S. I
>> > > > > > > > > > > > buy all of my music (Hey don't judge me lol)
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 2:58 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing is that getting quality sound is not really
>> > > > > > > expensive, even
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > for laptops :) But the real trick is that a good set
>> > of
>> > > > > > > headphones has
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > really much better sound that speakers costing 3x as
>> > much
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan, 22:56, Espionage724 <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got a stereo speaker setup for $13 with sound
>> > being
>> > > > > > > produced by an
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > intergrated IDT chip, so my sound experience is
>> > awesome
>> > > > haha
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:51 PM, UncleFerassi <
>> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's alright, I got subs connected to my speakers
>> > so
>> > > > I got
>> > > > > > > that rich
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bassy sound lol. Thanks for the help BTW, I
>> > > > appreciate it.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 2:48 pm, tribaljet <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Then get ready for full EAX gaming, and detailed
>> > > > audio for
>> > > > > > > both music
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> and movies ;) Btw, what is the average quality
>> > of
>> > > > your
>> > > > > > > music and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> movies?
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 5 Jan, 22:28, UncleFerassi <
>> > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Well right now, I have to wait for my paycheck
>> > on
>> > > > > > > Friday, but after
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > that I'm go to go :)
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Jan 5, 2:22 pm, tribaljet <
>> > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > I'm eager to know what do you find of the
>> > > > synergy
>> > > > > > > between that gear :)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Are you planning on getting it soon?
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > On 5 Jan, 15:52, UncleFerassi <
>> > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks for the advice! I'll be sure to try
>> > to
>> > > > get
>> > > > > > > the m50's and a new
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > soundcard.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Jan 4, 9:47 pm, tribaljet <
>> > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > One last thing, the money you save by
>> > > > getting the
>> > > > > > > x-fi surround 5.1,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > use it to add to the money you'll put
>> > > > together and
>> > > > > > > get the m50 :)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Seriously, it's the best pair of
>> > headphones
>> > > > you
>> > > > > > > can get at that price.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On 5 Jan, 05:33, tribaljet <
>> > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Oh, the closer to 100$ you are for
>> > M50's,
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > better the deal. It's
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > interesting that people that own M50's
>> > and
>> > > > > > > headphones costing 10x
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > more, still listen to their M50's
>> > without
>>
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