On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 18:09, Benjamin Außenhofer <kont...@beberlei.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 12:01 PM Jakub Zelenka <bu...@php.net> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > The vote is now open for the RFC about introduction of the PHP Technical > > Committee: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php_technical_committee > > > I found this idea of a TC interesting on the outset, but after carefully > consideirng I voted no on this RFC because > > a.) i believe it to be too much bearucracy for the little benefit > b.) potentially harmful depending on who is on the TC. > c.) There is also no process of overuling the TC, or voting a TC out due to > no confidence or something. Without the votes known of TC members, voters > of the TC have no insights into who they might want to boot or keep in the > next election. However introducing these data points would make everything > even more complicated. > > Ultimately, already at the moment each controversial change can be asked to > be RFCed and then the voters can decide with arguments made by people > knowledgable in the area. Yes, there is always some politics involved, but > the same would be true of the TC decisions. > So, basically what you have said: "Let's kick the can down the road and let somebody else deal with the issue in the future"? The problem this RFC is trying to solve has happened multiple times. There are numerous cases where a technical committee should have been involved, preventing problematic implementations being put into a release (read-only ended up, by the admission of the authors and multiple other devs, being a mistake in the form it is now) or prevented much-needed maintenance work be done on the code base that has nothing to do with public-facing changes. Also, the point c) is a contradiction. The TC is meant to break indecision, the byproduct of that is that half the people are not getting their way. It's the nature of any decision-making, where you must make a judgement call. So what you are saying here, is you want the decisions not to be made at all, unless everybody sings kumbaya and drinks beer until lights out? -- Arvīds Godjuks +371 26 851 664 arvids.godj...@gmail.com Telegram: @psihius https://t.me/psihius
