> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcelo Gornstein [mailto:marce...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:20 AM
> To: Stas Malyshev
> Cc: guilhermebla...@gmail.com; PHP Internals
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] annotations again
> 
> mm i don't remember saying anything like that :) i dont want to start an
> argument here, but maybe you'd like to take things less personal and re-read
> my post.
> 
> anyway, i think it's time to stop just saying "no", and really collaborate 
> with
> what the community is suggesting (and already
> propsed) in order to bring this into php (5.4 or whatever).

I absolutely agree we should be getting input from the various communities 
whether that's ZF, Symphony, Drupal, etc.. I do feel we get quite a bit of if 
it's not enough it should keep coming with very clear proposals. It'd also help 
if the frameworks would collaborate on such proposals. I know our ZF team has 
collaborated with other framework teams on a variety of fronts.
I do think this group does take clear proposals seriously but it's also 
important to remember that there has to be a strong bias to avoid feature creep 
and really focus on what's critical and not nice-to-have.
There are proposals that come up time and time again like operator overloading 
which just makes me cringe...

Andi

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