Hi Lester, AFAIK both mercurial and git support sub-repositories nicely now:
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Subrepository http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-submodule.html Regarding the graphical tools, I don't use them that much, but I see your point. Personally, I just occasionally use the Netbeans integration because it is easier to commit files in separate directories, but that is pretty much it since I think the rest is easier and quicker to do with the console, but I guess it will always be a matter of personal preference. I've been working with hg subrepos and they are quite nice. I'm still not that familiar with git submodules. BTW, you don't need to use python to customize/extend mercurial's behavior, you can use hooks: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Hook Best regards, David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote: > dukeofgaming wrote: > >> I thought it might be interesting for all to read some feedback I got >> from some questions I made to the Joomla community, specifically, the >> guys and gals that have been implementing the decoupling of the Joomla >> framework: the Joomla Platform. >> >> They currently still use svn officially but they have been experimenting >> with both mercurial and git. These are their responses so far: >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/joomla-dev-framework/browse_thread/thread/fd3b0151cc215c0e >> >> It may bring some insight to what a DVCS could do for the PHP community. >> > > I think that there are perhaps still a couple of separate problems here > which the DVCS community need to get behind for any of them to become a > 'front runner'. > > The main problem here IS 'subrepo' which is a concept that neither HG or > GIT handle particularly well, but to my mind is essential for a very much > modular project like PHP! While I have sort of managed to put together a > 'checkout' of a set of packages which together make a single build of the > target project, I'm still having to pull and commit changes manually to each > subrepo - I don't get the simple overview of outstanding changes that was SO > nice to work with in CVS! To try and put this in a 'PHP' context ... I DID > have a list of extensions I was working with, and a 'sync' in ECLIPSE gave > me a nice list of which ones had had changes pushed ... I could then go and > either simply update to those changes on an extension by extension basis - > or review the changes in each file so allow me to integrate other peoples > changes with my own local 'tweaks'. This is something that DVCS SHOULD be > perfect for, but the management tools for bundling a selection of parts of a > project are not there yet, mainly because the core developers on both HG and > GIT "don't see then need because they don't need that type of working"! > > I'm limping along with HG at the moment simply because it works on both > Linux AND Windows, while GIT's windows support is still rather hit and miss > when one is already using other unix tools on windows, but I do not have the > same level of integration in Eclipse that CVS and SVN provide beautify > straight out of the box. At least I can drop out of Eclipse into TortoiseHg > and do the code management, but it's not an ideal way of working. > > If I was a 'console jockey' then much of this would probably be a lot less > of a problem. One seems to need to write scripts to do what YOU want to do > in both HG and GIT - and then need to learn Python to do that in HG :( But I > never used CVS from the command line so a LOT of the reasoning for even the > switch to SVN was irrelevant since Eclipse had already solved all of those > 'problems'. > > At the current time I think that PHP would need to restructure how it is > packaged up to provide a single repo in both HG or GIT. Keeping SVN ( I'd > still prefer CVS here it works BETTER as a master for DVCS! ) as the master > from which we CAN currently sync using HG or GIT is the best of a bad job > currently. Unless some knows better? > > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// > Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
