FWIW: all the runtime notices in our codebase come from internally-created code.
Requiring declare(strict_variables=1) to get this (better) behaviour punishes future users of PHP for our past mistakes. > On Aug 28, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Thomas Bley <ma...@thomasbley.de> wrote: > > Normally every code base has old and new code, some is actively maintained, > some is probably third-party maintained, some is unmaintained. Business > normally not calculates costs for upgrading, securing, GDPRing old code, so > bigger changes always leave some people behind. > I would prefer to write new code with sth like declare(strict_variables=1); > or declare(SomeNamespace\Foo:strict_variables=1); That way, people can write > new code in a better way, include new libraries and upgrade old code piece by > piece without any big pressure. > > Regards > Thomas > >> Matthew Brown <matthewmatt...@gmail.com> hat am 28. August 2019 um 17:32 >> geschrieben: >> >> >> It's essentially tech debt, and the language has allowed its users to >> accrue a ton of it. >> >> The longer that's allowed (deprecations/warnings prolong the issue in my >> opinion) the harder it will be to fix the issues. >> >>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 10:56, Rowan Collins <rowan.coll...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 28 August 2019 15:22:22 BST, Matthew Brown <matthewmatt...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Looking at our notice logs, I estimate (fairly roughly) that it would >>>> require about a week's worth of my time to fix these issues >>> I honestly thought you were posting that as an argument against. A week of >>> resource (plus the accompanying QA impact etc) is a significant investment >>> for many organisations. That's why it has the potential to delay adoption >>> of a new version, and why a long lead-in via deprecation or opt-in is >>> necessary. >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Rowan Collins >>> [IMSoP] >>> -- >>> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>> -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
