On Fri, 14 May 2004 17:06:56 +0200
Matthieu Moy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Ted Zlatanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 13 May 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure that "reaching more users" should be the goal of Ion.
> >> Reaching more like-minded users is more like it.
> >
> > I respectfully disagree.  Users have to be converted to Ion, because
> > it's so unusual for a window manager.  Thus, concentrating on
> > like-minded users ignores the people who need Ion but don't know so.
> > This includes people with RSI, for instance, because Ion is so good
> > for mouseless usage.
> 
> Other  window-manager  now try  to  implement  ideas  from Ion.  Their
> priorities  may be  to reach  more users.  I don't  think this  is the
> *priority* for Ion.
> 
> But still,  I agree that if  we can get something  *in addition*, that
> would be perfect :-)

Getting more users is not a Bad Thing. I do not suggest that you
should try to make Ion the most widely used WM out there, but you
should not be so afraid that "reaching more users" would force you
to compromise what makes Ion great. Making it easier for new users to
switch to Ion is in fact a Good Thing.

I switched to Ion from Gnome 2.4 in January this year after a friend
convinced me to give it a go. Despite the novelty of Gnome 2.6 I have
stuck with Ion for a number of reasons. Shifting windows or my position
to use the mouse instead of the keyboard have never been any of my
favorite pastimes, but I do understand the advantages of simple point &
click interfaces.

As a new user I found Ion somewhat confusing, but it did not take long
before I started to experiment and I have gone through a few default
sessions since. However some users who would eventually come to like
Ion will never get past the first confusion.

I do not suggest that you make Ion more like Gnome or that you change
the basic philosophy simply to get more users, but do not let that stop
you from making Ion friendly to new users.

This could include, but is not limited to:
* default session configurations to choose between.
* more intuitive bindings to switch between tabs, frames and screens.
* pre-defined kludges for a few common applications.
* Ion users updating the Wikipedia with their own favorite
configurations and applications.

I have found that the more I use Ion, the more I like it.
There is nothing wrong with giving more people the chance to come to the
same conclusion.

--
Mats.


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