> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Ted Zlatanov wrote:
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>>> It's not completely like Windows, but hey...
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>> I'm not sure if other people feel the same way; but for me, once I'd
>> "deprogrammed" myself from the Windows way, I found myself much more
>> productive. Now, I always know that I've got an editor in the largest
>> frame of the first workspace, web stuff goes into the second. I can
>> immediately flick to the correct place without having to search around for
>> where I last happened to leave it. Whenever I use the more traditional
>> window managers now, I find myself getting exasperated incredibly quickly
>> about how everything gets into a mess.
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> I think two things are worth noting:
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> 1) What you describe is positional navigation. I already mentioned
> that I like it, but it's the only way (other than Mod1+G as Adam
> pointed out) to navigate in Ion right now. Why not visual (NxN
> grid of windows) or textual (usable list of windows, not just a
> Tab-activated CLI) navigation? I'm sure the textual navigation is
> already possible, although I don't know the exact mechanism -
> maybe a menu can be posted with the list of windows... The visual
> navigation is IMO very interesting, and Ion as a cutting-edge WM
> could offer it.
Someone has written a program that provides the visual navigation, check out skippy at http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php
There is one problem though, it requires A NETWM or GNOME WM Specs compliant window-manager. And since ion is strictly ICCCM complient only, and NETWM is one of those other standards, it doesn't actually work in ion.
Its worth looking at though, and if someone can either make ion NETWM client, or skippy to work in ICCCM standards then you might have something.
The reason it uses NETWM is because NETWM provides easier ways of getting the screen shots of the windows, or something like that.
Although the argument goes something along the lines of "Why have a program that lays all the windows out in an NxN grid, when ion is a window manager that lays all the windows out in a grid already".
j
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