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From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] on 
behalf of yitzc...@coapp.co.il [yitzc...@coapp.co.il]
Sent: 31 October 2018 19:16
To: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Subject: Re: [dev] Maintaining a connection from Coap devices to the iotivity 
cloud

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 03:26 AM, Ondrej Tomcik wrote:
What do you need such an often keep alive exchange for?
If a connection breaks, the Coap device will no longer receive requests. 
Therefore I need it to try to reconnect as soon as this happens. The only 
existing mechanism I am aware of telling if the connection is broken is via the 
PING/PONG mechanism.

-> yes, thats what ping pong is for. In case the connection was not closed 
gracefuly, you are waiting for a tcp timeout. If you want to know if the device 
is online, thats the only way. But you have to consider your requirements, how 
accurate information about the device status has to be? Additionaly, you should 
introduce timeouts for your requests. So not only ping the device every 5 
seconds, what is actually a bad idea, but handle also request timeouts and flag 
the device as not reachable for example. Its your business logic, based on your 
requirements and SLAs. 

What kind of load?
Not necessarily a specific load, but assuming an IOT cloud with thousands or 
more devices, I will expect the devices themselves to initiate the ping instead 
of the gateway, in order to take of some load from the gateway, but I guess 
this point is not clearcut.

What is the purpose of the ping pong? To provide an accurate information if the 
device is there ( and delay statistics for example, ... ). Who is interested if 
the device is there? Cloud user. Who owns information if the device is online? 
Cloud. Cloud is the one who owns and maintains this information. Cloud should 
be responsible to ping the device to check if it is online. Device is not 
interested if cloud is there. 
You may have ping configuration per device, for some specific SLA use cases, 
but its cloud who has to accurately provide this information. 



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