---it's still in unusable shape - as
---far as I'm concerned. (if you need details, please let me know -
but I'm not
---your personal debugger - be warned ;-))

please tell me what you find it wrong so i can correct it. i find it
very useable. There has been a grails plugin, wordpress theme, forum
software and forum themes (ex: wordpress) made of iwebkit. In a few
hours only! + for people just wanting a regular website this is
perfect. Am i wrong? the code works and makes a pretty interface.

---There's no reason to reduce quality
---because it's 'only a mobile phone'. The opposite is the truth: take
care
---about your key features and make them perfect - and the people will
love it!

i am not reducing quality by not adding in features that are just
kinda useless. The kit looks awsome and the iphone style is copied
exactly. I am just saying you shouldn't treat a website as a native
app especially on an iphone. Like webapp.net does with it's flickering
and annoying transitions i can't stand. you can't even scroll without
the page moving on it's own!

btw update is already done. Js is fixed and size of images reduced by
3 thanks to Jorge Chamorro who, instead of some of you, try to help
honest people trying to distribute something free and performing.

---I will fault this developer for not clearly labeling this as being
---beta software

it is not beta software and works perfectly.

---But just as a general comment, there is to much critical commenting
in
---this forum.

you are completly right. If you don't like it just don't use it unlike
thousands who did.

---uses the word stable a bit too much

I only see it once and i consider it to be stable

CONCLUSION: As what i do is free and i do it for fun i don't see how
you people can take it this like I am doing something wrong. Use it if
you like it.If you think somehow you need something fixed or something
just tell me and i'll take a look. I don't need to hear it sucks cause
that does not help developing it more. There is nothing wrong with it.
Everything works. Maybe there are some minor errors in the javascript
but it simply works great so i don't see the big deal for all you.
Anyway you could of ujust told me there are some minor errors and ask
me to fix them instead of raging around. Well i guess this place just
isn't mature enough or just a place where people can critic as much as
they want for fun or something.
Thank you.

On 13 mar, 14:47, shelly <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cool site, uses the word stable a bit too much misleading in some
> ways. But reading through the comments from the developer it does
> state issues, attempted fixes and misgivings on not having time to
> complete features.
>
> I guess in a perfect world there would be something like a super lint
> program that us open source developers could run our code against,
> maybe an expert system that produced a report of what needed to
> change. But its not a perfect world and even with a zero defect policy
> some of our prod apps get into QA with a lot of defects.
>
> The software is gpl and free. I don't ussually tonguelass unless I
> have to pay for the software and there to I tend not to be to critical
> if there is a genunine effort to fix the issue. You probably never
> dealth with microsoft if you haven't experienced this.
>
> Maybe its the Mom in me, I never critisized my child when she was in
> highschool if she made an honest effort. And I was rewarded by the
> fact that even now in college she is not afraid to come to me with any
> problem no matter how serious it might be.
>
> On Mar 13, 9:09 am, shelly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I will fault this developer for not clearly labeling this as being
> > beta software. I have not tested this because I have no need for it.
> > But just as a general comment, there is to much critical commenting in
> > this forum. A lot of iphone development is at the proof of concept
> > level. most mobile apps are for that matter. We are at the atari stage
> > basically and have not even moved into the mac plus stage. But in a
> > few years the mobile platforms of today will be much closer to the
> > PADDS of star trek.  you want production ready apps write one. I think
> > one of the reasons there isn't a lot of traffic on this forum other
> > than that a lot of iphone developers have dropped web based apps for
> > the sdk is that there is just to much of this going on.
>
> > On the other hand should only proven production code be posted in
> > forums or made availaible on the net. I don't think so, really
> > anything you get from sourceforge, independent sites or posted in
> > forums should be considered not production ready  and its basically
> > buyer beware.
>
> > On Mar 12, 9:23 pm, Andy Fuchs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On 12.03.09 19:39, "iWebKit" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > 1. have you even tried it?
>
> > > Yes
>
> > > > 2.it's not because i didnt write the js that it is no good or does not
> > > > work. It just needs some polishing and i got friend who might be able
> > > > to help me
>
> > > No! And sorry for this comment, BUT: While playing with iWebKit I 
> > > realized,
> > > this is not commercial quality code. I commented on this a long while ago,
> > > and IMHO it didn't change. It works., but it's still in unusable shape - 
> > > as
> > > far as I'm concerned. (if you need details, please let me know - but I'm 
> > > not
> > > your personal debugger - be warned ;-))
>
> > > > 3.is JS needed for something to be good? on a website it really is not
> > > > needed unless you insist on having a dynamic website. but just a
> > > > note... it's a mobile phone... you want performance not cool and slow
> > > > extra things.
>
> > > It's not about having 'something'. The iPhone is cool and your software
> > > should look as cool as the machine. There's no reason to reduce quality
> > > because it's 'only a mobile phone'. The opposite is the truth: take care
> > > about your key features and make them perfect - and the people will love 
> > > it!
>
> > > > just try it out i say.
>
> > > Did that - see above
>
> > > > update coming soon with js fixes.
>
> > > Hm
>
> > > andy- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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