A good alternative to using a desktop browser for quick rendering
feedback is to use something like MobiOne with its iPhone and Pre
emulator modes. (Disclaimer: I build custom mobile web apps and work
on the MobiOne dev team) We develop with several mobile web UI
frameworks including JQTouch and iUI. We found that using a desktop
browser is very limited especially once our needs grew beyond basic
rendering feedback. For example the problems that we quickly hit when
using desktop browsers included no multi-touch, orientation events,
webapp mode, viewport & scale settings, statusbar styling, offline,
startup image,.... We built all of those features into MobiOne on top
of its custom WebKit browser engine.

See MobiOne demo videos including JQTouch features here
http://www.genuitec.com/mobile/features.html

Wayne
http://www.genuitec.com/mobile

On Oct 14, 4:50 pm, Jorge Chamorro <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 14/10/2009, at 21:04, brente wrote:
>
> > Well said, Sean.  And bravo for all staying mellow and cool despite
> > technical differences.  One thing I like about this list is that
> > people are nice and very helpful.
>
> > Jorge, maybe you could write an extension js that adds the
> > functionality you need for full browsers, without adding it to the
> > main jqtouch.js file?
>
> It ought to be built in(to) iui/jqtouch/iWebkit/others (but not as an  
> extension, imo)
>
> > I totally hear what you're saying with wanting a framework that works
> > well, gracefully degrades and scales appropriately.  And if the
> > browser companies could decide on real standards to adhere to, we'd
> > all be in a different position. The mobile landscape with browsers
> > sure is annoying.
>
> It's pretty easy nowadays to make (it) work in these 4: Safari, Chrome  
> FF and Opera.
> IE is "different", you know.
>
> >  And having to consider, which I am now, to
> > architect 3 versions of your site (full browser, webkit smartphone,
> > and lite-text) brings back 1999 browser compatibility nightmares
> > again.  I hear ya.
>
> > I've used IUI for a real-world site and am learning jQTouch now.  They
> > both rock and have their pros/cons.  I too seek the day when there is
> > "one code base to rule them all".  Let me know if you find it.
>
> I've got it.: my hyper-forked iui :-)
> Whenever I touch it I make sure it runs too in the other 3 browsers.
>
> --
> Jorge.

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