"Crippling" is not how most developers that lack the big $$$ required
to get to the starting line for iPhone development (mac, iPhone SDK,
simulator, iPhone/iTouch, ...) describe our Windows-first direction
with MobiOne Developer.

MobiOne Developer is currently only on Windows and still be developed
(current version is milestone-4). A Mac version will be out in a few
months. MobiOne is built on top of the Eclipse RCP platform and uses
WebKit4SWT and JQTouch for much of the UI.

Were you looking for some other platform, e.g., Linux...?

W

On Oct 15, 12:02 pm, Mr Junk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Critically crippled by being Winblows only.
>
> You should have mentioned that before I wasted my time checking it out.
>
> On Oct 15, 2009, at 5:29 AM, wayne parrott wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > A good alternative to using a desktop browser for quick rendering
> > feedback is to use something like MobiOne with its iPhone and Pre
> > emulator modes. (Disclaimer: I build custom mobile web apps and work
> > on the MobiOne dev team) We develop with several mobile web UI
> > frameworks including JQTouch and iUI. We found that using a desktop
> > browser is very limited especially once our needs grew beyond basic
> > rendering feedback. For example the problems that we quickly hit when
> > using desktop browsers included no multi-touch, orientation events,
> > webapp mode, viewport & scale settings, statusbar styling, offline,
> > startup image,.... We built all of those features into MobiOne on top
> > of its custom WebKit browser engine.
>
> > See MobiOne demo videos including JQTouch features here
> >http://www.genuitec.com/mobile/features.html
>
> > Wayne
> >http://www.genuitec.com/mobile
>
> > On Oct 14, 4:50 pm, Jorge Chamorro <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 14/10/2009, at 21:04, brente wrote:
>
> >>> Well said, Sean.  And bravo for all staying mellow and cool despite
> >>> technical differences.  One thing I like about this list is that
> >>> people are nice and very helpful.
>
> >>> Jorge, maybe you could write an extension js that adds the
> >>> functionality you need for full browsers, without adding it to the
> >>> main jqtouch.js file?
>
> >> It ought to be built in(to) iui/jqtouch/iWebkit/others (but not as an
> >> extension, imo)
>
> >>> I totally hear what you're saying with wanting a framework that  
> >>> works
> >>> well, gracefully degrades and scales appropriately.  And if the
> >>> browser companies could decide on real standards to adhere to, we'd
> >>> all be in a different position. The mobile landscape with browsers
> >>> sure is annoying.
>
> >> It's pretty easy nowadays to make (it) work in these 4: Safari,  
> >> Chrome
> >> FF and Opera.
> >> IE is "different", you know.
>
> >>>  And having to consider, which I am now, to
> >>> architect 3 versions of your site (full browser, webkit smartphone,
> >>> and lite-text) brings back 1999 browser compatibility nightmares
> >>> again.  I hear ya.
>
> >>> I've used IUI for a real-world site and am learning jQTouch now.  
> >>> They
> >>> both rock and have their pros/cons.  I too seek the day when there  
> >>> is
> >>> "one code base to rule them all".  Let me know if you find it.
>
> >> I've got it.: my hyper-forked iui :-)
> >> Whenever I touch it I make sure it runs too in the other 3 browsers.
>
> >> --
> >> Jorge.

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