I am passing on talking to you on this one we can't seem to connect.  I
don't agree with you and your chanting mantras and belief systems at me and
I am trying to bring you down to the implementation details.  site locals
will be managed and controlled.  as one person I will not advocate them.
pretty simple really.  good bye on this thread.

/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday,February 08,2001 12:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: another renumbering question
> 
> 
> I really think you're missing my point, which is that this is 
> nothing to do
> with NAT; people were hiding internal-only hosts for years 
> before NAT came along,
> and they always will. This is nothing to do with address 
> space. Your border
> router doesn't route unsolicited packets to the hidden host 
> and your external 
> DNS doesn't propagate its RRs. Hiding site-local addresses is 
> no different.
> 
>   Brian
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > no he is not.  I know three large corporations using the 
> fact that they got
> > nice large ipv4 address space and do this in totally secure 
> manner.  the
> > evil here is nat your concerned about and site local 
> addresses can cause
> > that evil again.  also many of the ietf mantras are getting 
> trashed in the
> > real world.  we need to update our mantras.
> > 
> > /jim
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ext Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday,February 08,2001 11:28 AM
> > > To: Robert Elz
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: another renumbering question
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Elz wrote:
> > >
> > > >   | Why would any enterprise publish the A record of
> > > internalserver.example.com
> > > >   | outside the firewall?
> > > >
> > > > Why wouldn't they?
> > >
> > > Truly, you are out of touch with the way large corporate
> > > intranets are run.
> > >
> > >   Brian
> > >
> 
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