Brian,

Just to note.  You have 3 hard votes for b.

How long do we hold the voting booth open?  I suggest one month.


/jim


On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Thomas,
> 
> How can you combine a routing handle usage with intserv usage?
> These usages are totally disjoint. It's one or the other.
> 
> The historical fact (thanks to Frank Solensky for pointing this out in
> private mail) is that we rejected the routing handle usage right at
> the beginning of IPv6, even though some people disagreed and still regret
> it. But we also moved the language about the flow label to an appendix
> in RFC 2460, which means that many implementors seem to have ignored it.
> I believe it is time to clean up that ambiguity.
> 
> BTW it's the presence of an ESP header that tells you if the packet is
> encrypted. I don't see any need for a bit.
> 
>    Brian
> 
> Thomas Eklund wrote:
> > 
> > I vote for a semantics where you have MPLS or intserv style semantics and I
> > would also like a bit telling if the packet is encrypted or not.
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > -PS: Intserv is not 100% dead because there is an environment (wireless)
> > -where to get more bandwidth is really expensive (in Europe at least :-).
> > -PPS: there is another usage: flow-based switching for fast routing
> > -but I don't believe this really helps (petabit router vendors?)
> > 
> > --> No there is no need in term of a flow based switching fast routing since
> > the memory where you store the routing tables are so huge today. 512 K IPv4
> > prefixes could be stored in one CAM memory and usually you can use several
> > to obtain larger tables - all the CAM vendors support between 1 - 4 M IPv4
> > prefixes to be stored in their CAM and do one look up in a clock cycle.
> > 
> > But many people are using flow to do traffic engneering and that's where I
> > belive the "mpls" op by hop semantic is needed. for the flow label. It would
> > also be easier to signal up to the routing protocls like IS-IS, OSPF. BGP
> > etc when a change occured.
> > 
> > -- thomas
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