Hi Erik,

> >     1) Closed 'phone' with no additional external interfaces, 
> >        limited software & upgradability.
> >     2) PDA / phone, small device, small configuration ability,
> >        some ability to run extra applications, additional
> >        interfaces possible.
> >     3) PCMCIA radio card on a full-powered laptop, with
> >        a commercial IP stack
> 
> I think making the above distinctions would help focus the discussion.

Then we will do this.

> BTW: Does 1) include the ability to run e.g. Java applets or 
> other downloadable code?

I think we would clasify it as closed, no applets or downloadable
code.  
 
> > If this is useful, then we could then clarify in more detail the
> > difference between a 'host' and a 'router' - I do think that if
> > we try to cover both cases in a single draft, we will run into
> > trouble.  
> 
> The draft uses the term "terminal" which I think is defined in 3G.
> But does that definition explicitly say something about IP level stuff
> like host vs. router?

We've tried to limit the term 'terminal' for that point, it is not
an IETF term.  We tried to eliminate the use of the word 'terminal'
from the main body of the text, but a quick search seems to show
we haven't done a good job.  Perhaps we should define the term.

> Or will there soon be "mobile terminals" that have IP router 
> functionality?
> I suspect it makes sense to very clearly restrict the document to only
> be about terminals that have no router functionality.

Right now, in 3GPP specifications, there is not this possibility.
The market might do something else at some point (my visibility
isn't exactly clear on this point), but it has always been my
intention that terminals with IP router functionality should 
have seperate requirements, something I think most of the authors
are interested in specifying (in a seperate draft) after
this draft is done.

thanks,
John
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