Bill,

I agree see my response to James I just sent.  Just wanted to flush our IPsec protocol 
vs Keying which I think we just did.

thanks
/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Sommerfeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:16 PM
> To: Bound, Jim
> Cc: James Kempf; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Securing Neighbor Discovery BOF 
> 
> 
> > What problem are you trying to solve?  
> 
> securing neighbor discovery exchanges.
> 
> > IPsec works for ND?
> 
> Using AH/ESP to protect ND works fine once the SA's exist.
> 
> However, there's a chicken & egg problem if you want to use IKE, and
> manually configuring N*(N-1) SA's across N machines on the link is not
> deployable.
> 
> So if you want to use IPsec to protect ND, you need to solve the key
> management problem for ND.
> 
>                                       - Bill
> 

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