Robert Elz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As I recall, the only argument I've ever heard, is that the 'u' bit is
> important, because sometime in the future someone might come up with some
> scheme that will allow these "globally unique" IIDs to be treated specially
> for some purpose or other.    And even though that's just wild speculation,
> I could almost buy that (I'm one of the people who doesn't mind making 
> allowances for things that might happen in the future in general, even if
> we don't know what they are) - except that no-one has been able to tell me
> how we would ever cope with devices that simply have no idea if their
> MAC address is globally unique or not (and so really, in this interpretation
> would have to always leave the 'u' bit clear in all addresses - I can
> easily show that KAME would be broken according to this interpretation for
> example - that is, I can have it autoconfigure addresses with the 'u' bit
> set where the IID isn't globally unique - and I certainly can't imagine
> a way the KAME people could fix it, other than by never setting 'u'), and
> perhaps more importantly, as that one can always be hand waved away as a
> "configuration error" (though the imaginary protocol using this would have
> to deal with it, somehow) how we deal with address stability when a MAC
> address changes, so the IPv6 address is no longer based upon an EUI-64,
> though it used to be.

You seem to be wanting to require that if the u-bit is set, it is
*guaranteed* to be globally unique. No one can make such a guarantee,
of course. I have always viewed the  u bit a way of indicating that
the IID is probably unique, with  a high degree of likelyhood. This is
achieved by setting the u bit to 1, iff the ID is derived  from an
IEEE identifier.

> So, let me turn the question around.  Is there anyone out there who believes
> the draft should stay as it is (in this area) and who is willing to attempt
> to explain why?

I've tried to do so in another note.

> If there's no-one, then to me that looks like consensus for a change...

Not so fast. To change the status quo, one needs more than just a
couple of people saying "yes" and the vast majority of the community
being silent.

Thomas
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