Keith Moore writes:
> Hesham writes:
> > - "MUST NOTs" are there for a reason, saying MUST NOT
> > when it can be done and protocols don't break is not
> > a good idea.

I agree with Hesham.  We shouldn't be applying "MUST NOT"s to situations
where we have workable solutions.  Restricting site-locals to isolated
networks is not a good idea.

> > - People have shown that there are ways of using
> > site-locals for single and multi-sited hosts today and
> > making sure that apps don't break.
> 
> actually, no.  people have shown that there are ways of
> using SLs for some apps in such situations.  nobody has
> come up with a general solution that requires less than
> either:
> - expecting all non-isolated networks to provide global
>   addresses (and having apps ignore SLs in the presence
>   of globals), or 
> - expecting apps to do their own addressing and routing.

Which is just fine!  Nobody was arguing that non-isolated networks
shouldn't provide global addresses -- they should.  If someone want to
talk globally, they should use global addresses.  I think we could get
consensus on that.  (I'd make a small argument about your "ignore SLs in
the presence of globals", however, since I already showed how using
site-locals can work if the site-local is never passed outside of its
scope zone).

I claim that requiring non-isolated networks to provide global addresses
to those entities which desire global connectivity *is* a general
solution (and certainly a much better solution than banning site-locals
on non-isolated networks).  So why don't we standardize on that?

--Brian

P.S.  A couple other posts in the last few hours have shown that people
are (finally!) starting to think through the misguided proposal to ban
site-locals and realizing the downsides.  I'd like to add one more: how
are sporadically connected sites (e.g. a small home/office net with a
pay-by-the-minute dialup link that gets a different prefix each time it
connects) supposed to work if site-locals are banned from connected
networks?  Person X isn't going to want their intrasite connection to go
down because person Y wanted to check their mail on the Internet.  We
have a workable solution for this today in site-locals.  Do we really
want to encourage such sites to use link-locals and multi-link subnet
routers between all their links?

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