You where not at the rebellion/ad-hoc/let's get out of here and go for bee multi6 meeting on Thursday in Atlanta.
I was not actually aware of these meetings until later...  I have
since joined the mailing list.

One thing I have been think of. Do we know what the increased prefix-length does to implementations and the effect on convergence times? What I would like to do is have someone load a bunch of routers up with the current 130k routes but with a prefix length of 128n bits, what happens? What is the cost?
I don't know if anyone has studied this.  It is a very interesting
question.

Not in the draft I have worked on now. In futuer? Yes, we will need a solution to the scaling problem, but that needs to be achieved with a routing solutions as well as perhaps a solution to addresses.
Right.  I think that we will actually need to make a fairly major change
to the routing architecture of the Internet somewhere down the line, in
order to support continued growth.  I don't know what form it will take,
but it will probably require some changes to IPv6, at least to the
structure or allocation or IPv6 addresses.

True, but it would cause IPv6 routing table growth...  Do you have an
answer for that?
Without a question! But now we need to but time and deployment more than anything else.
I'm not sure I can quite agree...

I have the following things running around in my brain, and they aren't
converging:

        - We need to provide PI addressing in IPv6, or we will
                see wide deployment of IPv6 NAT in enterprises
                and homes.  No one seems to be disagreeing with
                this.

        - We think that the use of NAT is one of the serious
                architectural problems facing the Internet today,
                and that NAT is blocking the advancement of the
                Internet in many ways.  For an IPv6 Internet to
                be a "success", we must avoid the wide-scale
                deployment of IPv6 NAT.

        - We don't currently have a fully developed plan for
                aggregable, scalable IPv6 PI addressing.  Some
                folks are working on this problem, but no one
                has claimed to have a full answer yet.

        - We know that providing widely-used PI addresses in IPv6
                will result in substantially larger routing
                tables than doing straight PA addressing.

        - We also know that routing table size is a real scaling
                factor in the IPv4 Internet, for which we have not
                determined an adequate solution.

        - Routing table growth is not (yet) a scaling problem
                for IPv6, because of limited deployment.  However,
                wide deployment of IPv6 is also a criteria for
                "success", so we need to build a scalable
                solution...

        - However, "success" must also include the avoidance of
                wide-scale IPv6 NAT deployment, which we can only
                achieve if we provide PI addresses...

        [Ad infinitim.]

So, where do we go from here?

Margaret







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