FWIW,

I totally agree with Jinmei.  I'd like a MAY, but SHOULD worded 
the-other-way-around, without "unless" is also acceptable.

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, JINMEI Tatuya / [ISO-2022-JP] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H wrote:
> Since I won't be able to join the decision making about the
> requirement level of DHCPv6, I'd like to present my opinion in an
> off-site manner.  I'll separate the requirement for stateful address
> autoconfigurataion (the M bit) part and other configuration (the O
> bit) part, as suggested by Dave.
> 
> As for stateful autoconfiguration by DHCPv6:
> 
> If I was just asked to vote either for MAY or for SHOULD, I would vote
> for MAY, just for the same reason as the one Christian said in the
> Monday session.  However, I can live with SHOULD as well, as long as
> the requirement clearly states that there may be IPv6 nodes that do
> not support stateful autoconfiguration and that administrators should
> take care.
> 
> What I'm afraid about when we take SHOULD is that the administrators
> might naively assume it is safe to specify the "M" bit in Router
> Advertisement (without specifying prefixes that can be used for
> stateless autoconfiguration).  Then many nodes not supporting stateful
> autoconfiguration might lose global connectivity.
> 
> >From this point of view, I don't think the following proposal in the
> ML is a perfect compromise:
> 
>   Stateful Address Autoconfiguration SHOULD be supported, unless all 
>   possible use cases for the specific implementation concerned are clearly
>   satisfied by Stateless Address Autoconfiguration.
> 
> because the phrase "all possible use cases for the specific
> implementation concerned" is ambiguous.
> 
> I'd like the text to specify (examples of) "the possible use cases"
> concretely.
> 
> Or I'd reverse the logic, like:
> 
>   Stateful Address Autoconfiguration SHOULD be supported, when some
>   use cases for the specific implementation concerned are not
>   satisfied by Stateless Address Autoconfiguration.
> 
> And/or I'd add an explicit warning to administrators:
> 
>   At the same time, network administrators should take care about the
>   effect of disabling stateless autoconfiguration (see Section 5.3).
> 
> As for other configuration (e.g. DHCPv6) by DHCPv6:
> I would vote for SHOULD, with one condition that 
> 
>                                       JINMEI, Tatuya
>                                       Communication Platform Lab.
>                                       Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
>                                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> p.s. I have read RFC 2461 and 2462, and I believe I understand the RFCs.
> 
> p.p.s I'll be offline for 10 hours in 15 minutes.
> 
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