I'm afraid it makes no sense in English to use
"when", since we are trying to weaken the SHOULD,
not to tell implementors how to design their products.

I voted for "SHOULD...unless" but I can't support
"SHOULD...when". 

  Brian

Pekka Savola wrote:
> 
> FWIW,
> 
> I totally agree with Jinmei.  I'd like a MAY, but SHOULD worded
> the-other-way-around, without "unless" is also acceptable.
> 
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, JINMEI Tatuya / [ISO-2022-JP] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H wrote:
> > Since I won't be able to join the decision making about the
> > requirement level of DHCPv6, I'd like to present my opinion in an
> > off-site manner.  I'll separate the requirement for stateful address
> > autoconfigurataion (the M bit) part and other configuration (the O
> > bit) part, as suggested by Dave.
> >
> > As for stateful autoconfiguration by DHCPv6:
> >
> > If I was just asked to vote either for MAY or for SHOULD, I would vote
> > for MAY, just for the same reason as the one Christian said in the
> > Monday session.  However, I can live with SHOULD as well, as long as
> > the requirement clearly states that there may be IPv6 nodes that do
> > not support stateful autoconfiguration and that administrators should
> > take care.
> >
> > What I'm afraid about when we take SHOULD is that the administrators
> > might naively assume it is safe to specify the "M" bit in Router
> > Advertisement (without specifying prefixes that can be used for
> > stateless autoconfiguration).  Then many nodes not supporting stateful
> > autoconfiguration might lose global connectivity.
> >
> > >From this point of view, I don't think the following proposal in the
> > ML is a perfect compromise:
> >
> >   Stateful Address Autoconfiguration SHOULD be supported, unless all
> >   possible use cases for the specific implementation concerned are clearly
> >   satisfied by Stateless Address Autoconfiguration.
> >
> > because the phrase "all possible use cases for the specific
> > implementation concerned" is ambiguous.
> >
> > I'd like the text to specify (examples of) "the possible use cases"
> > concretely.
> >
> > Or I'd reverse the logic, like:
> >
> >   Stateful Address Autoconfiguration SHOULD be supported, when some
> >   use cases for the specific implementation concerned are not
> >   satisfied by Stateless Address Autoconfiguration.
> >
> > And/or I'd add an explicit warning to administrators:
> >
> >   At the same time, network administrators should take care about the
> >   effect of disabling stateless autoconfiguration (see Section 5.3).
> >
> > As for other configuration (e.g. DHCPv6) by DHCPv6:
> > I would vote for SHOULD, with one condition that
> >
> >                                       JINMEI, Tatuya
> >                                       Communication Platform Lab.
> >                                       Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
> >                                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > p.s. I have read RFC 2461 and 2462, and I believe I understand the RFCs.
> >
> > p.p.s I'll be offline for 10 hours in 15 minutes.
> >
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