When did site local addresses die and why? I changed companies and missed
several months of discussion.

Currently I am working on NMS related changes based on:
* FE8, FE9, FEA, and FEB are Link local addresses
* FEC0 is the prefix of a site local address. Site local addresses are the
equivalent of a private IPv4 address

As stated by several other comments recently, I see taht there is not a
consensus about the fate of Link local addresses.

To many people are used to thinking of using the 10 net as their local
(corporate or internal) address space. If we do not take this into account
then these people will adopt ::10:X:X:X:X  as the local addresses just as
before. When this is related to large companies and their internal (not
addressable fro the public Internet) hardware they still need some sort of
site or organization local addresses.

We can not pass this by just to prevet slowing otherthings down. There are
too many documents out there that refer to FEC0 as the site local, so you
will not be able to use it for other applications, thus we will have a de
facto standard based on old information while the offical standard will have
no alternate.

We must take the lead on this issue.
Eric Klein
NGN Solutions Manager
TTI Team Telecom International

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Chown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "EricLKlein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: A use for site local addresses?


> Read the email.  Site locals are dead, hence the question :)
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 04:50:57PM +0200, EricLKlein wrote:
> > This could be covered under the prefix FEC0.
> >
> > This  is the prefix of a site local address. Site local addresses are
the equivalent of a private IPv4 address.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Saywell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:05 PM
> > Subject: A use for site local addresses?
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've only just joined the list - I'm mailing about the proposed
abandoning
> > > of site locals because I'd like to use them!
> > >
> > > Basically I'm involved in setting up a community wireless network in
> > > Southampton, UK.  The wireless network itself is a fully routed mesh
> > > using private (10.13/16) addresses, the long term goal is to get ISPs
> > > to provide internet gateways which you connect to via a VPN, PPPoE or
> > > some other method, over which you get a public address.
> > >
> > > We'd like to start running v6 on the network alongside the 10.13
addresses
> > > and site-locals seem like the most sensible choice since it's the only
> > > allocation of v6 addresses which is going to be available for us to
use
> > > and which is large enough to accomodate a /48 per access point (of
which
> > > there could be hundreds).  Obviously the same internet access model
could
> > > be used so you would get a public prefix over the PPPoE connection.
> > >
> > > The site-local addresses would only be used for traffic contained
within
> > > the the wireless mesh, if some areas offered open internet access then
> > > they could advertise an additional prefix routed from their own
internet
> > > connection, thus avoiding any NAT.
> > >
> > > Well, that's my use and case for Site-Locals in a nut-shell!  I
realise
> > > that this type of deployment is quite a rare case, but I think it
> > > represents a legitimate use of private addresses.
> > >
> > > By the way, another option which would work very well in this type
> > > of scenario is the geographical based addressing -
> > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hain-ipv6-pi-addr-use-03.txt
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike Saywell
> > >
> > > Southampton Open Wireless Network
> > > http://www.sown.org.uk
> > >
> > > PhD Student, Dept ECS, Southampton UK.
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