----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian E Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> That's why the basic dual stack mechanism includes tunnels - the server would
> need to establish a tunnel out to the nearest available IPv6 router. The application
> still sees the dual stack socket API.
> 

Tunnels are a non-starter because people are not going to move from a 160-bit header
to a 320-bit basic header, followed by numerous other bloated headers and then add more
headers just to tunnel across the legacy IPv4 32-bit Internet. The laws of physics can 
not be
changed. You can only push bits so fast thru a particular medium.

With the liberated American marketplace, free from the I* society regime, the focus is 
on SERVICES.
Services are now being developed and deployed that assume minimal bandwidth 
requirements and
efficient routing. IPv16 only allows native mode, there is no tunnel mode. Not only 
that, the data rides
inside of the IPv6 basic header in the unused bloated address bits. The 320-bit header 
is the packet,
the only packet, for many services.

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info


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