I would think long and hard before I would mandate that my upstream ISP can renumber me as a customer `at a whim'. This screams `DOS' and `exploit haven'. -- Todd Fries .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free Daemon Consulting, LLC Land: 405-748-4596 http://FreeDaemonConsulting.com Mobile: 405-203-6124 "..in support of free software solutions." Key fingerprint: 37E7 D3EB 74D0 8D66 A68D B866 0326 204E 3F42 004A Key: http://todd.fries.net/pgp.txt (last updated 2003/03/13 07:14:10) Penned by Tony Hain on Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 01:59:38PM -0700, we have: | Leif Johansson wrote: | > Yet another old argument. I remember several opposing voices | > from the SL | > debate. | | Appearing to be primarily from service providers. By my count most of the no | voters were from edge focused people. | | > I am running a large edge network. I have both PI and PA v4 and yet I | > don't see | > the need for site-locals. | | So is all of your space is globally routed without any filtering or | exclusion from routing protocols? Not everyone is in such a lucky position | to have all of their network globally exposed. | | > I think it is time to drop the "silent | > majority" argument. | > | > What edge-network do you run? | | Currently an insignificant one, but in past lives I have been involved in | both large scale edge and core network management. The point is not what you | or I think about the need for local addressing, it is about what the manager | who can't get PI space is going to do. Insufficient resources to justify PI | space does not invalidate their need for internal network stability. | | In the absence of NAT, allowing the ISPs to renumber customer networks at a | whim will ensure 'address-portability' becomes a hot button. We can help | mitigate what would become random PI by providing local stability. We can go | further by providing a 'less-than-perfect' PI. PI will solve most of the | requirements for local space, but by definition can't deal with the | requirement to avoid accidentally becoming part of a routed aggregate. | | Tony | | | | | -------------------------------------------------------------------- | IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List | IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng | FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng | Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
