100% agree. I was stating the tremor before IPv4 NAT actually happened not why they are using it. I also don't think users are stupid but maybe far to trusting of vendors and the IETF like MObile IPv6 WG was of IPsec :--)
/jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Michel Py [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:06 AM > To: Bound, Jim > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Some IPv6LL operational experience > > > > Jim Bound wrote: > > The reason NAT got away with what it did is the users got > blind sided > > and then IETF got sucked into building a special NAT working group > > (which I objected to at Munich) and look at the mess we > have out there > > today. At least to me it's a complete mess. > > I have to disagree with this. The reason NAT is popular is > not because users are stupid. Users indeed are stupid (count > me in, I use NAT) but they will continue using NAT as long as > the pros outweigh the cons. It is too late to do anything > about IPv4 NAT, but if we see IPv6 NAT happening it will be > our collective failure to provide solutions that are better. > > Michel. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
