Jim,

> Jim Bound wrote:
> 100% agree. I was stating the tremor before IPv4 NAT actually
> happened not why they are using it.  I also don't think users
> are stupid but maybe far to trusting of vendors and the IETF
> like MObile IPv6 WG was of IPsec :--)

What drives me nuts with you is that although you have a
far-better-than-average understanding on how the market works you have
failed to realize that users ultimately drive the market and these users
don't actually give a hoot to LLs but do to SLs.

Michel.
 

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