Hi Frederic

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On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Frederic Detienne wrote:

> Hi Yoav,
> 
> We will be there (following offline with you for the details).
> 
> I do not think there is a need to spend 20 minutes on the draft which 
> everyone should have read. There are three vague points in it and 10 min seem 
> largely sufficient.

20 minutes includes time spent on hellos, introductions, asking if everyone has 
read the draft, jabber scribe, testing the audio, and all other kinds of 
administrivia. You've been to IETF sessions before, and you know how that goes.

> At this stage several vendors think they have a fair understanding of the 
> requirements and a gap analysis is much more productive and constructive. I 
> have just asked Chris Ulliott to provide his feedback in case audio fails on 
> us. We can factor his reply in the discussions.

To me the biggest gap in existing solutions is that they require kludges like 
GRE tunnels and route-based VPN, and also that they don't cover the 
provisioning of credentials. GRE tunnels and route-based VPNs I consider a 
kludge because you are then required to treat VPN tunnels as interfaces. 
Interfaces are much more resource intensive when compared to simple SAs, and 
most operating systems are very limited in the number of interfaces that they 
support.

> We will not send our presentation in advance but we will publish the relevant 
> material after the meeting. The discussion following the presentations is 
> likely to bring additional material to the table.

Downloadable presentations help people who are following remotely (like Chris) 
in case the audio does not fail.
> 
> regards,
> 
>       fred

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